Comair furloughs 210

[aussieflyboy]

Just saw on our XJT forum somebody post that Comair announced 210 furloughs today, apparently back to April 07 hires. Can anyone else back that up?

 

[Turtlesfly]

I can verify that I saw it on the forum too!

(Oh wait, that's not what you meant!)

 

[CRJ puppy]

Just saw on our XJT forum somebody post that Comair announced 210 furloughs today, apparently back to April 07 hires. Can anyone else back that up?

Yep. 206 furloughs. Goes back to 04-09-07 date of hire. (Source=company memo). Letters to be sent to pilot's address of record next week.

 

[DX Rick]

Can anyone else back that up?

Girl, you looks good, won't you back that thang up
You'se a fine motherfocka, won't you back that thang up
Call me Big Daddy when you back that thang up
Hoe, who is you playin wit? Back that thang up.

 

[Bull]

I am sorry to hear about Comair Furlough. I have been through furlough in the past its not a nice thing to go through. I have posted a add for Qatar Pilot Recruitment if any F/Os who have 2000 hours total time and 500 CRJ time you qualify for this job. If you have less total time and more then 500 CRJ time that will work too. If you can take the change and challenge this job is great to gain heavy exprience and see the world. Please feel free to PM me or read related threads on Qatar Recruitment. I wish all the furlough pilots the best. Good Luck!

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Girl, you looks good, won't you back that thang up
You'se a fine motherfocka, won't you back that thang up
Call me Big Daddy when you back that thang up
Hoe, who is you playin wit? Back that thang up.

DX wins the thread with a JaRule reference!

I owe you one beer my friend!

 

[flyguy75000]

I'll take a beer from you Saluki for having to post here and correct you.....unfortunately, those words of wisdom come from the world-reknown poet Juvenile.

:beer:

 

[wmuflyguy]

DX wins the thread with a JaRule reference!

I owe you one beer my friend!

someone beat me to it.

 

[goodpilotithink]

There once was a Pilot group who said Enough! They put their careers on the line and walked out for 89 days. They said "we would rather risk every thing than continue with the status quoe. They fought a good fight and won a contract that put them at the top of the Regional Industry. Did they get every thing they wanted? No. But they were satisfied they had done there part. The other Regional Pilot groups would now pick up the torch and continue the fight.
Boy, were they wrong.Republic pilots were in a 30 day cooling off period. They had a decision to make. Under cut the Comair pilot group or demand what Comair Pilots got plus a little.
That is called pattern bargaining. A common practice that dates back decades.
They chose the path of cowards. They were told if they under cut the Comair Pilots, they would get a bunch of Shiny New Jets. Quick upgrades. They bought into it. They could not resist. The Mesa Pilots had already bowed to ornstein. They watched as jo played them like a fiddle. They saw all this play out and they STLL bowed to the same tactics jo had used to beat his pilots into submission.
It was sad to watch. All it did was give them an excuse to stab the Comair Pilots in the back.
Now today, Comair is sending 206 pilots packing.
All hopes of bargain pattern bargaining is gone because of the actions of a couple of short sited pilot groups.
So if you guys and gals ever wonder why a Comair Pilot looks the other way when you pass him or her in the terminals, just think about the 206 fine pilots who no longer have jobs due in large part to your short sited actions at a time when you could of stood tall and joined the Comair Pilots in saying "Enough!"

 

[flyboyike]

And they're still saying they're planning to recall in December. I'm trying to figure out how it makes sense to furlough/downgrade that many people for all of two months.

 

[pinn82]

Ja Rule?

 

[RiddleEagle18]

And they're still saying they're planning to recall in December. I'm trying to figure out how it makes sense to furlough/downgrade that many people for all of two months.

I know that's what ALPA said a month ago but new information is they wont recall until 2nd quarter 09!

One of the furloughees talked to Crew forecasting and planning and they said they are only expecting to recall 50 in 2009. Unless something changes with Mesa. Court date isnt supposed to be heard until spring 09

So ALPA says December and the Company says only 50 in 2009.

Lets see, the way this place runs we should be recalling, hiring, and upgrading in about 3 weeks.

I hope its short guys. Unfortunately I think the entire thing lies with Mesa's ability to remain out of Bankruptcy or win the lawsuit.

Mesa will be de-listed on Dec 15th from the NASDAQ do to less than a dollar a share. They have massive amounts of debt due in early 2009 and still have the lawsuit with ALOHA's creditors. Hawaiian was awarded 80 plus million and from all accounts ALOHA is said to have a stronger case.

 

[on autopilot]

There once was a Pilot group who said Enough! They put their careers on the line and walked out for 89 days. They said "we would rather risk every thing than continue with the status quoe. They fought a good fight and won a contract that put them at the top of the Regional Industry. Did they get every thing they wanted? No. But they were satisfied they had done there part. The other Regional Pilot groups would now pick up the torch and continue the fight.
Boy, were they wrong.Republic pilots were in a 30 day cooling off period. They had a decision to make. Under cut the Comair pilot group or demand what Comair Pilots got plus a little.
That is called pattern bargaining. A common practice that dates back decades.
They chose the path of cowards. They were told if they under cut the Comair Pilots, they would get a bunch of Shiny New Jets. Quick upgrades. They bought into it. They could not resist. The Mesa Pilots had already bowed to ornstein. They watched as jo played them like a fiddle. They saw all this play out and they STLL bowed to the same tactics jo had used to beat his pilots into submission.
It was sad to watch. All it did was give them an excuse to stab the Comair Pilots in the back.
Now today, Comair is sending 206 pilots packing.
All hopes of bargain pattern bargaining is gone because of the actions of a couple of short sited pilot groups.
So if you guys and gals ever wonder why a Comair Pilot looks the other way when you pass him or her in the terminals, just think about the 206 fine pilots who no longer have jobs due in large part to your short sited actions at a time when you could of stood tall and joined the Comair Pilots in saying "Enough!"

100% I AGREE NEXT TIME STAND UP FOR THE PROFFESSION EVERYONE DO IT OR SCREW IT!!!

 

[Broke in CVG]

There once was a Pilot group who said Enough! They put their careers on the line and walked out for 89 days. They said "we would rather risk every thing than continue with the status quoe. They fought a good fight and won a contract that put them at the top of the Regional Industry. Did they get every thing they wanted? No. But they were satisfied they had done there part. The other Regional Pilot groups would now pick up the torch and continue the fight.
Boy, were they wrong.Republic pilots were in a 30 day cooling off period. They had a decision to make. Under cut the Comair pilot group or demand what Comair Pilots got plus a little.
That is called pattern bargaining. A common practice that dates back decades.
They chose the path of cowards. They were told if they under cut the Comair Pilots, they would get a bunch of Shiny New Jets. Quick upgrades. They bought into it. They could not resist. The Mesa Pilots had already bowed to ornstein. They watched as jo played them like a fiddle. They saw all this play out and they STLL bowed to the same tactics jo had used to beat his pilots into submission.
It was sad to watch. All it did was give them an excuse to stab the Comair Pilots in the back.
Now today, Comair is sending 206 pilots packing.
All hopes of bargain pattern bargaining is gone because of the actions of a couple of short sited pilot groups.
So if you guys and gals ever wonder why a Comair Pilot looks the other way when you pass him or her in the terminals, just think about the 206 fine pilots who no longer have jobs due in large part to your short sited actions at a time when you could of stood tall and joined the Comair Pilots in saying "Enough!"

I agree with everything above EXCEPT the furloughs have very little to do with the other spineless pilots (CHQ, MESA). Furloughs are due to big oil, small jets, slow winter months.

And before you get up on your high and mighty pedestal, we (well actually not me - just the 51% of my spineless co-workers) stabbed ASA in the back when they were in negotiations. Remember Fred's pay freeze? And then BK slaughter? We should have (actually I did) said NO to both.

Oh BTW: Mesa Sucks!

 

[McNugent]

Yes Mesa will be de-listed due to their shares being less than a dollar ($.46/share today) for such a long period of time.

Bonds are coming due that they supposedly can't pay. Watch JO pull something out of his ass though..

Yeah Mesa lost against Hawaiian but remember they settled for 52 mil. I believe. A lot less than the 80 mil. the courts awarded.

Aloha has stated their intention to sell the lawsuit against Mesa as an asset. Who knows if/when that thing will ever see the light of day in a court room.

And with all this, what exactly does it have to do with Comair?