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Local news here in KY reports the wrong runway theory, and the one survivor (but then also 50 fatalities). They report that there was a loud boom and a "fireball"... But the aircraft remained "largely intact." Hard to really say what happened.
 
liz289101 said:
Local news here in KY reports the wrong runway theory, and the one survivor (but then also 50 fatalities). They report that there was a loud boom and a "fireball"... But the aircraft remained "largely intact." Hard to really say what happened.

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n32jk said:
The best advice I have seen on this or any aviation board.

From several years of air safety work I can assure you. Anyone who rushes out to share first hand knowledge, usually isn't very knowledgable. Eye witnesses are usually legally blind. Reliable sources aren't. Logical conclusions are usually personal theories. Aviation EXPERTS are defined as EX= has been. Spirt= drip under pressure.

Best to focus thoughts and prayers for the families.

And a little special prayer for the people who have the unenviable task of investigating the accident in a professional manner. They give up a piece of their very soul for a greater good for all of us.





Joe



Well said Joe, my condolences and thoughts are with their families.
 
Of course you need to take witness accounts with a grain of salt, but the lound bang and flash could have been an engine. The 100 / 200 has no fadec, so if they were firewalled, bad things happen. Pure speculation.

GodSpeed Comair 5191
 
Can a full CRJ 200 depart on a 3500 foot runway with a light headwind as has been reported? I know our ATR can do it.
 
Travis152 said:
It is on the local news here in Lex, KY. They have a "reliable source" that said they took off from 26 not 22, Rwy 26 is only 3,500 where as 22 is 7,000.

You have to cross the end of 26 to get to 22.

And Taxiway A is closed right where I takes you to the end of 22, I was flying out of that airport just yesterday in the Lear
 
av8tor4239 said:
Can a full CRJ 200 depart on a 3500 foot runway with a light headwind as has been reported? I know our ATR can do it.


Without being there, who knows. However there is a big difference between a straight wing turbo prop and a swept wing jet that also happens to have a super critical wing.
 
I don't have the exact data, but very unlikely to take off w/ 50 pax on 3500 feet.
As always there are other factors, winds, runway slope, etc.
 
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pa31350pilot said:
Of course you need to take witness accounts with a grain of salt, but the lound bang and flash could have been an engine. The 100 / 200 has no fadec, so if they were firewalled, bad things happen. Pure speculation.

GodSpeed Comair 5191

Yeah a friend of mine that flies an RJ Pt 91 had a compressor come apart taking off from Teterhole in june. He said it was ugly but they made it to Newark no prob
 
av8tor4239 said:
Can a full CRJ 200 depart on a 3500 foot runway with a light headwind as has been reported? I know our ATR can do it.

No chance. Maybe with 20kts and holding the brakes until full power is up. We use 5000ft runways with our 40 seaters in APF and that is always pushing it. Usually can't even take 40 especially with any extra fuel.
 
My prayers to the family and friends of all on board.
 
av8tor4239 said:
Can a full CRJ 200 depart on a 3500 foot runway with a light headwind as has been reported? I know our ATR can do it.

That report was a total speculation, no fact. The position could also be explained by a downwind turn back to the airport if you look at LEX's diagram. You do however have to cross the threshold of 26 to get to 22 though. But still, the media is stupid and just looking for something to sink their teeth into.

God Bless the crew, passengers, and family.
 
Video clearly shows that aircraft impacted trees less than 1/2 mile from departure end of 26-tops of trees sheared off in direction of 26 and aircraft breakup just past that in wooded area. Have flown out of LEX numerous times, but not lately. My memory is that airport terrain on 22/4 anyway is higher at center of airport so you cannot see other end of RWY. Not sure what the view from the beginning of 26 is or whether you can see end of runway. Impact site is much closer than the reported 1 mile. Aircraft barely made it off airport property just south of an airport fire training facility. Looks like the initial impact tree stub remains are about 30 feet high giving some idea as to altitude on initial impact with tree line.
 
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Sad day

bvt1151 said:
AA 191 DC10 in 1979 at ORD

DL 191 in 1985 at DFW
This scares me...

My condolences to all the families of the passengers and crew aboard the Comair flight today. My heart goes out to all of you, and my prayers for your soul's safe flight home.

God Bless ALL of you.
 
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