Comair canceling interviews

[cmrflyer]

That has to be one of the dumbest post i have ever seen. Where do you get the idea that any comair pilot is looking forward to the idea of delta going into BK. Only a complete idiot would make such a statement.

Come back and make a decent post when you have some facts, don't just blurt out the first childish thing that pops into your head.

 

[StaySeated]

While some might not be living in reality, comair has not seen growth for years. The recent joke of an loa was supposed to provide some growth, but besides that not much has happened at comair in a long time. Anyone that thinks bk is going to be a good thing is a total idiot.

 

[flighttime]

So how are those DCA guys going to get that guaranteed interview they paid a 100k for?

Skywest, Express Jet, ASA, American Eagle, Chautauqua, TSA,

 

[Jetsetter]

While some might not be living in reality, comair has not seen growth for years. The recent joke of an loa was supposed to provide some growth, but besides that not much has happened at comair in a long time. Anyone that thinks bk is going to be a good thing is a total idiot.

At least Comair has not shrunk by over 3000 pilots, like mainline. You guys have been growing or at least holding small growth while almost every carrier has shrunk and furloughed. I do agree with you on BK.

 

[PGTB]

Skywest, Express Jet, ASA, American Eagle, Chautauqua, TSA,

CHQ is going to feel a little pain to as Freedom is slowly going to start replacing their 145 flying.

 

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At least Comair has not shrunk by over 3000 pilots, like mainline. You guys have been growing or at least holding small growth while almost every carrier has shrunk and furloughed.

True, but 2,000 (or more) of those pilots left Delta holding $1,000,000 to $3,000,000. in cash and some are still flying the line for better than $250,000 a year because Delta is understaffed in some seats.

It is not pretty for anyone, but the Delta pilots voted to keep us separate, they voted to allow their senior guys to come back while their junior brothers were on the street. For the majority of the Delta pilots they got what they voted for and if they invest their millions properly they are more than set for life.

I'd be glad to retire in my early fifties with a couple of million.

And don't get the feeling that growth has been "explosive" at all ends of DCI. I got to enjoy reserve for over 3 years and probably will get to enjoy some more in the near future. It has been the non wholly owned's (non ALPA) carriers like CHQ and SkyWest who are enjoying the sub 24 month Captain upgrades.

Why am I on this board, I need to be filling out applications.....

 

[bvt1151]

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classes for september are cancelled

simply incorrect

 

[350DRIVER]

'96 hire. (2500 Captains left in 14 months--200 yesterday)


Bye Bye--General Lee

Had dinner with a friend who is a CVG MD captain the other week and at only 53 the buyout he was offered was in the neighborhood of $640,000, out of sheer curiousity what would the buyout be a 86-89 DOH in the 75/76 or 77 for that matter?. We both were assuming in the 1.2-1.5 range?.

I wish you guys the best, mainline flying should be done by mainline equipment by mainline pilots.

It is going to be a rough road ahead, USAirways, American and United have been in their "cost cutting" programs 1-2 years longer than Delta. USAirways and United have terminated their "defined benefit" retirement plans and Delta is still obligated and paying.

Jerry has been through bankruptcy before and I feel certain he will not hesitate to go there again, he is 72 years old. I don't know how he can work like he is anyway. Maybe he's suffering from dementia.

good luck GL

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[DGdaPilot]

simply incorrect

How so? My buddy HAD a Sept. 12 class. Not anymore.

 

[Wacopilot]

my instructor schedule is the same for september.....The classes are just smaller than they were originally planned. There is a newhire class every week this month.

Waco

 

[Jetsetter]

True, but 2,000 (or more) of those pilots left Delta holding $1,000,000 to $3,000,000. in cash and some are still flying the line for better than $250,000 a year because Delta is understaffed in some seats.

It is not pretty for anyone, but the Delta pilots voted to keep us separate, they voted to allow their senior guys to come back while their junior brothers were on the street. For the majority of the Delta pilots they got what they voted for and if they invest their millions properly they are more than set for life.

I'd be glad to retire in my early fifties with a couple of million.

And don't get the feeling that growth has been "explosive" at all ends of DCI. I got to enjoy reserve for over 3 years and probably will get to enjoy some more in the near future. It has been the non wholly owned's (non ALPA) carriers like CHQ and SkyWest who are enjoying the sub 24 month Captain upgrades.

Why am I on this board, I need to be filling out applications.....

So you have a problem with guys leaving with their hard earned pensions ?

The fact is that 3000 pilots have gone from the property and over 1000 of those have been furloughed, all while Comair has been hiring at a fairly good rate.

I do not think that any of the over 1000 furloughed Delta pilots could give a sh1t that you had to sit on reserve for 3 measly years, while they were on the street.

You guys want help from the Delta pilots now...what have you guys done to try and help out while they have been bleeding ?? a: told the furloughed pilots that you did not even want them at the bottom of your list (while you guys would love DOH on Delta's). a: The RJDC (need I say more)

ASA was more than happy about hiring furloughed Delta guys and someday that will be remembered. As far as Comair goes I know that 1060 Delta pilots will never ever ever forget your help.

 

[CMRJetDriver]

The CR7FO October Bid Packet had the following class dates published in it.

9/2 4
9/12 8
9/19 6
9/26 12
10/3 12
10/10 12
10/17 12
11/7 8
11/14 8

YTD Hired 188. CY05 projected hiring 250. Of course this was published yesterday so I'm sure it's not true by now. I'm out of the loop since I'm down on the gulf coast putting a roof on my house...AGAIN!

 

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The fact is that 3000 pilots have gone from the property and over 1000 of those have been furloughed, all while Comair has been hiring at a fairly good rate.

a: The RJDC (need I say more)

ASA was more than happy about hiring furloughed Delta guys and someday that will be remembered. As far as Comair goes I know that 1060 Delta pilots will never ever ever forget your help.

Er' um, don't know how to tell you this Sir, but you are wrong on so many assumptions:

First, I'm ASA and don't need any help from any Delta pilot. Not that any Delta pilot has ever offered any help.

Second, most of the Delta guys left as millionaire's, in cash. I'm happy for them. The guys that are remaining at an insolvent Delta might be wondering if everyone cashing out is such a good thing. Oh well, enjoy your new seniority, just realize nothing is free.

Third, you slam the RJDC, but if they had gotten their way all the 3,000 pilots you mentioned would be either millionaires, or employed. The Delta MEC kept the operations separate, the Delta pilots ratified scope, the Comair guys were not even allowed to participate. I don't know why you are mad at them.

As a line pilot who flies with Delta Furloughees all the time, I guess I spend more time with them than you do. Delta has some great pilots waiting to come back on board and I wish them all the best. Darned if their own MEC keeps screwing things up for them.

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[Spinplate]

If Delta does file Im sure Mesa will pick up more Connection routes since their cost is going to be the lowest. At least thats what is supposed to happen in bankruptcy court. Sell to the lowest bidder to save $$$

 

[Jetsetter]

Er' um, don't know how to tell you this Sir, but you are wrong on so many assumptions:

First, I'm ASA and don't need any help from any Delta pilot. Not that any Delta pilot has ever offered any help.

Second, most of the Delta guys left as millionaire's, in cash. I'm happy for them. The guys that are remaining at an insolvent Delta might be wondering if everyone cashing out is such a good thing. Oh well, enjoy your new seniority, just realize nothing is free.

Third, you slam the RJDC, but if they had gotten their way all the 3,000 pilots you mentioned would be millionaires, or at least employed.

Your MEC kept the operations separate, your MEC voted on scope, the Comair guys were not even allowed to participate. I don't know why you are mad at them.

As a line pilot who flies with Delta Furloughees all the time, I guess I spend more time with them than you do. Delta has some great pilots waiting to come back on board and I wish them all the best. Darned if their own MEC keeps screwing things up for them.

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Ok, you work for ASA, the way you were posting made it seem like you work for Comair.

I do not agree with you about the RJDC. If they get their way it looks like many many more mainline jobs will be sent to the lowest bidder. (not good for anybody)

As far as scope, I have read all the debates about what the Delta MEC did and did not do,and we will never have the same view on that. They did however ask the Comair MEC about preferencial hiring on the bottom of Comair's list, and they wanted DOH on Delta's, so it was not agreed upon. That is where I have a problem with Comair's pilots. ASA seemed to welcome Delta's furloughed pilots.