Colgan Air absorbing Express jet routes in saab 200

[ATLplt]

Fartknocker?? Are you serious?? It's amazing how everyone on this board seems to know a CAL exec, and even more amazing that the execs. tell some random douchebag that they aren't happy with one of their service providers.

It's also funny how the XJET guys get so defensive when anything bad is said about their airline, while the Colgan guys usually just play along. Are you really that proud that you're flying for a regional? The goal is to get the time, get out, and fly something not made in Brazil or Sweeden. Some of you are missing the point. Keep arguing about the stupid 2000. It will never get here, and we'll still be flying to the same destinations in the 340.

 

[Cadillac]

ATLplt,

Yes, many of Expressjet's pilots do get defensive when bad/inaccurate things are said about their airline. It's an interesting thing called pride. Attitudes like yours of get in, get your time, get out are a major contributing factor to why this whole profession is in the dumpster. If people did not jump at the first scumbag airline *cough*MESA*cough*cough* that hired them and waited 2 more weeks to get hired at the higher end regionals, then we wouldn't see half the whip-sawing we do. Not working for crud wages/working conditions sends a message to management that they need to bring their contracts up to scale, instead of bragging about their "competitive cost structure."

But it won't happen until some miracle arises and supply of idots stops popping out of pilot-factories ready to "get their time" on their way to that job at united. I suggest 135 hiring mins at the 121 level to put a dent in it.

 

[MINIME]

We all need to wake up and smell the new realities of the industry! Judging from what has happened at Air Wisky, Comair and probably others, nothing and I mean nothing... is far fetched. Prepare, prepare, prepare cause walmartization of this industry seems to be the new hot item. I truly believe, that no matter where you're sitting right now, this trend could, might and probably will affect you.

 

[updraft]

looks like the industry is stepping backwards. going back to turboprops because of gas prices.

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

Colgan? Taking our routes......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Yeah right, Sometimes I wonder why we even bother giving them those little fartknocker routes in the Saabs.

Wow everybody it's Larry Kellner! That sure was mighty nice of you to give Colgan some routes!

Also, where have you been? Skywest and now Colgan HAS taken many routes we used to do in the jet.

 

[ATRedneck]

No Steve is a fine lad and all but I'm not him. We just happen to have similar admiration for the old ATR. I think anyone who has actully flown the airplane will share our enthusiasm.

Straight up, G-money!

ATR drivaz forever, beeyotch! imp:

 

[ATLplt]

High end regional? Is that like the Escort with the CD changer and sunroof vs. the one with just the cassette? I believe they still call both an Escort.

The reason for my earlier message was to point out the ostentatious attitude of some of your fellow pilots. I jump on Xjet all the time and have met some extremely nice people with great attitudes. I also remember a flight where the Capt. at the gate started bad mouthing Colgan and asked if I knew that Xjet was hiring. Pretty freaking arrogant if you ask me. I smiled, thanked him for the ride, and went on my way. A ride home was more important than arguing about his lack of class.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Skywest and now Colgan HAS taken many routes we used to do in the jet.

...just like EJ have taken routes "they" (Continental) used to do in larger airplanes. So I guess you've taken flying from Continental pilots.

Actually, Colgan, Skywest, Commutair and EJ didn't "take" anything, Continental assigned the flying. The only entity that "owns" the flying is Continental and they can spread it around as they choose.

 

[Mr Wu]

If people did not jump at the first scumbag airline *cough*MESA*cough*cough* that hired them and waited 2 more weeks to get hired at the higher end regionals, then we wouldn't see half the whip-sawing we do.

But it won't happen until some miracle arises and supply of idots stops popping out of pilot-factories ready to "get their time" on their way to that job at united. I suggest 135 hiring mins at the 121 level to put a dent in it.

You assclown. XJ was one of the first to drop their mins to 600/100 for people coming from pilot mills.

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

...just like EJ have taken routes "they" (Continental) used to do in larger airplanes. So I guess you've taken flying from Continental pilots.

Actually, Colgan, Skywest, Commutair and EJ didn't "take" anything, Continental assigned the flying. The only entity that "owns" the flying is Continental and they can spread it around as they choose.

Obviously you missed the whole tone of my post. My whole point is that they aren't OUR routes in the first place. They are routes we used to do, now done by someone else. Notice how I said they have taken routes we used to do-not OUR routes. It cracks me up how many of my fellow pilots think we are entitled to certain flying just because we are XJT.

I'll try to be more obvious in the future for you.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Obviously you missed the whole tone of my post. My whole point is that they aren't OUR routes in the first place. They are routes we used to do, now done by someone else.

Yep, I did miss the tone. I wasn't attacking you, in case you missed MY tone.

 

[PilotSkyBlue]

The goal is to get the time, get out, and fly something not made in Brazil or Sweeden.

That has to be the all time greatest quote i've seen on here.

 

[suupah]

High end regional? Is that like the Escort with the CD changer and sunroof vs. the one with just the cassette? I believe they still call both an Escort.

The reason for my earlier message was to point out the ostentatious attitude of some of your fellow pilots. I jump on Xjet all the time and have met some extremely nice people with great attitudes. I also remember a flight where the Capt. at the gate started bad mouthing Colgan and asked if I knew that Xjet was hiring. Pretty freaking arrogant if you ask me. I smiled, thanked him for the ride, and went on my way. A ride home was more important than arguing about his lack of class.

Yeah I have experienced similar treatment by shuttle pilots and some mainline pilots. But for the most part the mainline guys are alot more polite then the regional guys. I think many of them made their bones in a TP flying through crappy weather by hand.

 

[DX Rick]

Is Colgan buying ALL the Saab 2000's that Chicago Express was in line to buy?

 

[Cadillac]

GrnClvrs,

I like your avatar.




Oh, and if you insult me again I'm gonna drill two holes in your d i c k . So that when you take a piss, it will go in all different directions.