CO Pilot Suspended story?

[Longhorn]

PCL.

I usually dont respond to this stuff with your name attached because I know who you are..but, I am with them on this. You seem to get on every thread about anything and suddenly you are the expert. You bash us JB guys for everything and anything when you have no vested interest in my company. You pull the same crap over on airlinkpilots (yes, I still occasionally read whats going on) and you are just as bad if not worse over there and thats your own web board. NOW, you come on here and try to include yourself in a conversation about an airline that you dont work for..and you once again have no vested interest in. Out of everyone, including the usuall suspects, you are the only one who consistantly post on JB threads about crap you know nothing about. You do the same on NWA threads...which you think you know something about..but you dont. UPS threads..once again Ditto. Gemini..ditto again and the list goes on and on. Being an elected official at pinnacle, you should be concentrating on efforts to keep your company alive, not worrying about my company, or anyone else for that matter. My god man...stop shoving your nose up everyone's ass and stick to putting it up your own. (that might get me banned...sorry ahead of time..ive tried to be good) Sorry PCL, but I finally had it with ya.

BS aka longhorn

 

[xjhawk]

someone said this....i cannot believe i wwanted to work for this company...but then i wanted to work at NWA and realised their MEC members stab people in the back

 

[PCL_128]

Longhorn, you are suffering from the same problem that most JetBlue pilots are: you think that what happens at one airline doesn't affect every other airline in the industry. One of the biggest problems that we have in this industry is that pilots don't get involved in what's going on in the industry around them. Sitting back and only focusing on your little corner of the industry is counter-productive.

Transcon turns at JetBlue, SCABs on the CAL MEC, concessions at CMR, and alter-egos like G o - J e t negatively affect the entire profession. Ignoring these things and sticking your head in the sand isn't the right thing to do.

I only got involved in this thread because Occam (also not a CAL pilot by the way) made a statement in defense of the CAL MEC. If it had just been a bunch of CAL pilots conversing then I wouldn't have gotten involved.

The whole intent of a public message board is for pilots of all different airlines and backgrounds to discuss topics openly. If only CAL pilots should discuss CAL issues, then why even bring it up on a public message board? If it's something that is only pertinent to CAL pilots, then post it on the CAL ALPA boards. If it's posted here on flightinfo, then it's fair game for every member of flightinfo. That's how a public message board works.

 

[Longhorn]

Thank you genius for reading the instruction manual on how the board works. My point is that not only do you have a skewed opinion, but a very over the top..my crap does not stink attitude. I think that if you came onto the board with just a little humility you may have earned the respect of everyone here. Instead, you act like you know everything about the industry. I am not trying to throw stones, but from someone who reads this stuff and usually does not respond that is how you come across. You may not realize it but you do. I know that you are trying to do what is best for your airline in your position, and I respect that, its just the way you come across on here. And before you go on about how I think like every jetblue pilot, keep in mind that I was at pcl for quite a while, was a comittee chairman, and flew cargo for 3 years before that. I paid my alpa dues and know the union inside out. 75% of our so called JB thinking pilots put more time in unions that you will ever see. Worked at eastern, pan am, usair, braniff, hughs air west for gods sake and you have the nerve to try to tell our pilots how the industry works. On top of all that, you paid an eastern scab (gulfstream) money to raise gear and watch clouds go by in the islands so you could say that you had experience to get on at pcl. btw..i did not pay at pcl. I had the time and that program was over when I got there for guys/gals with 1500tt or more. So with that in mind, for you to act all high and mighty is just beyond many of us here at FI because you praise alpa, denounce scabs yet help one pay for his house by signing up for his program then you use the excuse that you were new in the buisness and did not know. I call BS sir. Your father was involved in the union and could have told you otherwise. You PAID AN EASTERN ALPA SCAB MONEY to be involved in his time building program. For you to even be involved with alpa is amazing. Well, now that you pissed me off, which I never get mad about anything, except this chick that had braces...but thats another story...I am done

 

[Longhorn]

Edited by request..... So did you hear the one about the priest, the rabbi and the hooker?

 

[PCL_128]

then you use the excuse that you were new in the buisness and did not know. I call BS sir. Your father was involved in the union and could have told you otherwise.

You must have me confused with someone else. My dad's a real estate agent. His union days were many years ago, and it wasn't a pilots' union. You, Boeingman, and 100LL can believe what you want about why I made the PFT mistake. I honestly don't care. Just don't expect me to sit back silently about transcon turns and the like simply because some of your fellow JBlue pilots worked at Braniff, Pan Am, and other ALPA carriers years ago. The people that have been in this industry for 5 years have just as much right to an opinion as the guys who have been here for 35 years. Sorry if that bothers you.

 

[Longhorn]

Ok..so maybe it was not a pilots union but a union never the less. Let me remind you of one line from a PM you sent me.

"I just come from a long line of proud union guys from both sides of the family."

So dont pull that crap about your family being in a union a long time ago like it was not a big deal. According to you, you came from a long line of PROUD UNION GUYS. Nice to see that you helped finance a SCABS lifestyle. You have no respect or merit on this board.

 

[Boeingman]

This guy is an LEC or MEC member for PCL? Sheesh

You, Boeingman, and 100LL can believe what you want about why I made the PFT mistake.

You never made a mistake because you are an opportunist. Just like a scab is an opportunist. Your problem is you're just to ignorant to keep your mouth shut. What makes you even more comical is your chastizing (not giving opinions) others given your PFT history.That along with being such an arrogant know it all is the reason why people think you're a complete tool.

BTW junior for clarification you keep refering to the prior CAL MEC as scab('s)(plural). In reality there was only one and it was understood by all on the picket line why he crossed. The other 2 were former PEX pilots. Now I know that facts easily confuse you but what else is new?

 

[Boeingman]

You sure have this guy pegged. I suspected he lied about his "knowledge" about Gulfstream and his family background with this thread:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=71002

Seems like his lies are starting to catch up with him. Really pathetic.

 

[Boeingman]

PCL 128,

You don't even work at Continental Airlines. Why are you on here trying to lecture senior pilots like Boeingman who were probably flying jets while you were breast feeding from your mom. So you logged on to the ALPA website and read a CAL newsletter... big deal.

Did he PFT for a breast feeding course? PTS? (Pay to suckle)?

 

[Uppercrust]

Excellent analysis. I always found it interesting that of all the PFT children out there, this clown is the only one who as you so perfectly describe, tries to legitimize himself with diatribe and rhetoric.

I notice Mr. Expert does not have any info or response on why JP crossed the line. I guess it is just easier to sling mud and vile instead of facts and circumstances. For a guy who thinks PFT is such a grey issue, he sure spews in black and white.

What is even more hilarious is the fact that the LEC in CLE and their antics are one of the reasons that SBR is being pushed so hard at CAL. I wonder if PCL PFT boy knows that the CLE guys were a rubber stamp for the outgoing MEC? Probably not.

Am I correct this pft child s part of the union leadership at PCL?

PFT'ing is a disgrace!!

 

[banned username 1]

OK guys. You've made your point quite well. Could we move on please.

Thanks

 

[Longhorn]

Ok UAL78 Sounds good to me.

 

[seahorse]

Hey Longhorn, can you do all of us CAL guys a favor and send Boeingman a PM with this guys name so that we never have to see him on CAL property. Just by the slim chance he were to ever slip through the cracks. I really don't read this message board too much, but this guy is soooo d.amn annoying.

I'm sure Boeingman could stop by KD's office just to warn him. Thanks!!

 

[Jonny Sacko]

No problem PFT boy. I take it as an honor to be on your ignore list. However, it doesn't prevent others from making me show what a total idiot and hypocrite that you truly are. Although you do a fine job of that all by yourself.

How do I get on this list?? Please help.

 

[EMBpilot]

IMHO on the topic of the thread:

Money doesn't matter as much. A wide body Captain is not looking for sympathy from regional pilots drooling over major’s forums who can't afford for their wives to quit working.
What matters is the judgment and punishment by the superiors.
If the Captain decides that a crewmember needs better rest so be it. Those who try to sleep in an exit row month after month would understand. To those who don’t – it’ll be hard to explain.

 

[MDAutry]

You know there are always exceptions but if the PIC is not able to be in charge of his own aircraft then what is left to be desired when it comes to the airlines.

 

[Vastly Underemp]

MDAutry......BINGO!!!!!

 

[kc81900]

Helloooooooooo. FAA, where are you? I know you're on this board somewhere because you sure arn't out doing your job. I hope this Captain gets the best lawyer money can buy. Where is ALPA on this subject?

ALPA will shortly act in this matter once they realize they will not be receiving any dues from this individual during his 30 day suspension.

 

[Golden Falcon]

kc81900....haha...you hit the nail square on the head.....I just find it a bit odd to see the Names Continental and Alpa in the same sentence, without a string of expletives in between....