CO Pilot Suspended story?

[IAHERJ]

How do you know what he does or does not have saved up? The fact that many donated to this cause has nothing to do with his personal finances. He might have a years worth in the bank but that is not the issue. The pilots wanted to show support for an issue we take very seriously. Most will admit that it was our own union that sold away that seat on this fleet type and we are in the process of evaluating this and possible making a deal with management to have the seat restored but that is above my pay level.

IAHERJ

 

[Airway]

nevermind

 

[IXLR8]

mine was sarcasm....take note of the smileys...

 

[Uppercrust]

The VP SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS CLASS! This is now way to treat an upper level leader of your company. That capt should be talked to and grilled by the CPO's. No questions asked. I would feel honored personally to have a member of my senior management on board my aircraft and would do anything to accomadate them. Senior level management should have been treated better in this case. Remember, were just the ones drivin the bus, they are the ones leading us!

 

[Cardinal]

Deleted....Forum Software Also FUBAR

 

[Cardinal]

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[Cardinal]

His points are accurate, and his opinions mirror that of a large portion of the CAL pilot group. Thus his present employer isn't of great importance.

PCL_128 has made the mistake of collossal ignorance once in his career, and he's not going to make that mistake again. By researching and following the goings on at his target carriers, he will be able to make solid choices. If every newhire stayed as well informed this scum-sucking industry would be a better place.

I don't work at CAL either, but I have read the Flight Pay Loss report in its entirety. Have you?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Sarcasm? Probably not. While I feel for the guy and the paycuts that he (and others) have taken, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy when you make 100-150K+ a year, and don't have at least a months worth of liquid salary saved up.

10000K would pay my mortgage for 7 MONTHS. Part of the reason that so many pilots out there at the majors have financial issues is that they live at the very max of their income, rather then living modestly.

Tie right into the pension arguements. While I think it totally sucks that pensions are getting cut- I have to wonder what these guys did with their money all of those years. My wife and I make about 90K a year combined. Not a lot, but certainly enough for us to live comfortably, and put enough into retirement accounts that will keep us comfortable after we call it quits (right now with modest growth of about 5-6% they project to be about 7 million when we retire at 60).

I think the company blows for suspending this guy. But it shouldn't have put him into such a position that he needs that much support from his fellow pilots (regardless of how generous they are or feel).

thanks Suzi Orman.

you sound like someone who just moved out of a CL65 and out of his moms basement.

How do you know what the guy had? he could have 250K+ in liquid savings..

but thanks for telling us your annual income, your mortgage payment, and your retirement forecasts.

 

[737 Pylt]

I would feel honored personally to have a member of my senior management on board my aircraft and would do anything to accomadate them.

Crusty.....Take him up to broke back mountain, and show him your super re-inforced knee pads.....He'll really appreciate that type of accomadation!
737

 

[accinelli]

They should fire the idiot for moving the VP. A contract can be amended -- wait and watch.

 

[GogglesPisano]

What's the logic behind crew rest in coach in the 756 and BusinessFirst on the 737 and 777?

 

[FN FAL]

My wife and I make about 90K a year combined. Not a lot, but certainly enough for us to live comfortably, and put enough into retirement accounts that will keep us comfortable after we call it quits (right now with modest growth of about 5-6% they project to be about 7 million when we retire at 60).

You're going to have 7 million in a retirement plan, working as a regional pilot? You need to take some pay concessions...that's way too much government property for you to be possessing.

 

[Cardinal]

What's the logic behind crew rest in coach in the 756 and BusinessFirst on the 737 and 777?

A FUBAR MEC.

 

[64II]

The VP SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS CLASS! This is now way to treat an upper level leader of your company. That capt should be talked to and grilled by the CPO's. No questions asked. I would feel honored personally to have a member of my senior management on board my aircraft and would do anything to accomadate them. Senior level management should have been treated better in this case. Remember, were just the ones drivin the bus, they are the ones leading us!

Uppercrust is either a union radical being more sarcastic than I ever thought possible or a nutjob! Either way....you crack me up!

 

[Uppercrust]

Crusty.....Take him up to broke back mountain, and show him your super re-inforced knee pads.....He'll really appreciate that type of accomadation!
737

I think you're use to it at your company eh........

 

[FN FAL]

Do you work at Continental Airlines?

No, but I am kind of curious how an employer can almost fire an employee for such a thing.

Evidently, the airline was able to give the pilot 90 days off without pay and then it was reduced to 30.

Even without a union, wouldn't an employer have to have grounds to fire you, give you 90 days off without pay or give you 30 days off without pay?

I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just curious about whether or not the airline had a leg to stand on...you'd think they would have, considering that people do sue when wrongfully terminated from employment.

 

[Boeingman]

Pft=opportunist Scab

Barking up the wrong tree on this one, Occam. The MEC has largely been replaced, including the SCAB MEC Chairman. Not to mention the fact that the MEC is under investigation at National for an FPL scam. Normally I'll defend the MEC members of any airline, but the CAL MEC was a joke until recently when most of them were replaced.

PCL you really need to STFU as once again you are talking out of your ass.

First of all, I despise the work of JP and his regime, but if ANYONE had a legitimate reason to scab it was him. I spent a long time out with a sign any many of us knew what his personal circumstances were in 83 and didn't mind. If you knew the true story you would probably feel like a total ass for your comments. Which is nothing new for you.

So again I say to you STFU about running your mouth with things you have zero knowledge or a depth of knowledge about. I earned the right for my opinion. You had Mommy and Daddy buy yours and then you prostituted yourself for Burger King wages. Who has more credibility here? Which one of us works for CAL?

The MEC was not "replaced", they resigned. Again STFU about things you have no knowledge of. Do you see the theme here you arrogant little pft child?

There were more than the MEC members under investgation but it is not being termed as a scam. It is also largely a closed issue as far as national is concerned. Once again STFU about things you have no knowledge of.

 

[Boeingman]

Do you work at Continental Airlines?

There is no PFT program here. That would rule out the Flightinfo PFT King

 

[Boeingman]

I think the company blows for suspending this guy. But it shouldn't have put him into such a position that he needs that much support from his fellow pilots (regardless of how generous they are or feel).

He doesn't need the money. Come talk to us in about ten years when you get a little less wet behind the ears about unity & support.

 

[Kugelblitz]

Sarcasm? Probably not. While I feel for the guy and the paycuts that he (and others) have taken, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy when you make 100-150K+ a year, and don't have at least a months worth of liquid salary saved up.

10000K would pay my mortgage for 7 MONTHS. Part of the reason that so many pilots out there at the majors have financial issues is that they live at the very max of their income, rather then living modestly.

Tie right into the pension arguements. While I think it totally sucks that pensions are getting cut- I have to wonder what these guys did with their money all of those years. My wife and I make about 90K a year combined. Not a lot, but certainly enough for us to live comfortably, and put enough into retirement accounts that will keep us comfortable after we call it quits (right now with modest growth of about 5-6% they project to be about 7 million when we retire at 60).

I think the company blows for suspending this guy. But it shouldn't have put him into such a position that he needs that much support from his fellow pilots (regardless of how generous they are or feel).

Hey dude, you think you may be just a bit bitter?