CO Pilot Suspended story?

[GogglesPisano]

What's the logic behind crew rest in coach in the 756 and BusinessFirst on the 737 and 777?

 

[FN FAL]

My wife and I make about 90K a year combined. Not a lot, but certainly enough for us to live comfortably, and put enough into retirement accounts that will keep us comfortable after we call it quits (right now with modest growth of about 5-6% they project to be about 7 million when we retire at 60).

You're going to have 7 million in a retirement plan, working as a regional pilot? You need to take some pay concessions...that's way too much government property for you to be possessing.

 

[Cardinal]

What's the logic behind crew rest in coach in the 756 and BusinessFirst on the 737 and 777?

A FUBAR MEC.

 

[64II]

The VP SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS CLASS! This is now way to treat an upper level leader of your company. That capt should be talked to and grilled by the CPO's. No questions asked. I would feel honored personally to have a member of my senior management on board my aircraft and would do anything to accomadate them. Senior level management should have been treated better in this case. Remember, were just the ones drivin the bus, they are the ones leading us!

Uppercrust is either a union radical being more sarcastic than I ever thought possible or a nutjob! Either way....you crack me up!

 

[Uppercrust]

Crusty.....Take him up to broke back mountain, and show him your super re-inforced knee pads.....He'll really appreciate that type of accomadation!
737

I think you're use to it at your company eh........

 

[FN FAL]

Do you work at Continental Airlines?

No, but I am kind of curious how an employer can almost fire an employee for such a thing.

Evidently, the airline was able to give the pilot 90 days off without pay and then it was reduced to 30.

Even without a union, wouldn't an employer have to have grounds to fire you, give you 90 days off without pay or give you 30 days off without pay?

I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just curious about whether or not the airline had a leg to stand on...you'd think they would have, considering that people do sue when wrongfully terminated from employment.

 

[Boeingman]

Pft=opportunist Scab

Barking up the wrong tree on this one, Occam. The MEC has largely been replaced, including the SCAB MEC Chairman. Not to mention the fact that the MEC is under investigation at National for an FPL scam. Normally I'll defend the MEC members of any airline, but the CAL MEC was a joke until recently when most of them were replaced.

PCL you really need to STFU as once again you are talking out of your ass.

First of all, I despise the work of JP and his regime, but if ANYONE had a legitimate reason to scab it was him. I spent a long time out with a sign any many of us knew what his personal circumstances were in 83 and didn't mind. If you knew the true story you would probably feel like a total ass for your comments. Which is nothing new for you.

So again I say to you STFU about running your mouth with things you have zero knowledge or a depth of knowledge about. I earned the right for my opinion. You had Mommy and Daddy buy yours and then you prostituted yourself for Burger King wages. Who has more credibility here? Which one of us works for CAL?

The MEC was not "replaced", they resigned. Again STFU about things you have no knowledge of. Do you see the theme here you arrogant little pft child?

There were more than the MEC members under investgation but it is not being termed as a scam. It is also largely a closed issue as far as national is concerned. Once again STFU about things you have no knowledge of.

 

[Boeingman]

Do you work at Continental Airlines?

There is no PFT program here. That would rule out the Flightinfo PFT King

 

[Boeingman]

I think the company blows for suspending this guy. But it shouldn't have put him into such a position that he needs that much support from his fellow pilots (regardless of how generous they are or feel).

He doesn't need the money. Come talk to us in about ten years when you get a little less wet behind the ears about unity & support.

 

[Kugelblitz]

Sarcasm? Probably not. While I feel for the guy and the paycuts that he (and others) have taken, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy when you make 100-150K+ a year, and don't have at least a months worth of liquid salary saved up.

10000K would pay my mortgage for 7 MONTHS. Part of the reason that so many pilots out there at the majors have financial issues is that they live at the very max of their income, rather then living modestly.

Tie right into the pension arguements. While I think it totally sucks that pensions are getting cut- I have to wonder what these guys did with their money all of those years. My wife and I make about 90K a year combined. Not a lot, but certainly enough for us to live comfortably, and put enough into retirement accounts that will keep us comfortable after we call it quits (right now with modest growth of about 5-6% they project to be about 7 million when we retire at 60).

I think the company blows for suspending this guy. But it shouldn't have put him into such a position that he needs that much support from his fellow pilots (regardless of how generous they are or feel).

Hey dude, you think you may be just a bit bitter?

 

[imadumbpilot]

The MEC was not "replaced", they resigned.

They would have been recalled at this last MEC meeting had they not resigned. The resignation was, I think the right thing to do to save a little bit of face.

 

[F9 A319]

VP in the Back

Chairmen, CEOs, Presidents, VPs, Directors - they all come and go. They show up change a couple things, for better or for worse, they collect their bonuses and stock options, spin the assets or perhaps the entire company then move on. They don't even necessarily stay in aviation.

Pilots have the most vested, long term interest in any airline. Unlike Management, if an airline folds the pilots start at the bottom, once again. That’s seniority, pay, retirement and schedule.

The previous Chairman, CEO and President at my airline refused to be treated any differently than any other employee or passenger. Management is just another group of people with different jobs. They can’t live without us, as much as they would like to, and unfortunately, we can’t live without them.

One of the best statements our previous Chairman, CEO and President ever made to me was, “I just wish everyone could see no one's job is any more important than anyone else’s.”

The VP rides in coach.

 

[Echopapa]

My wife and I make about 90K a year combined. Not a lot, but certainly enough for us to live comfortably.....that will keep us comfortable after we call it quits (right now with modest growth of about 5-6% they project to be about 7 million when we retire at 60).quote]

Since your so much into disclosure....how much of that 90K a year does your wife make?

Oh...and on the 7 Million....I call BS

Here is an online saving calculator: http://www.bankrate.com/brm/calc/savecalc.asp

Assuming your 25 (ha ha), and you save every year till your 60 at 6% you only need to invest $4892 a month (57K a year).

Time for math:

90 K a year....lets see you can shelter 30K (duel income) a year in a 401K....so that 60 K taxable...hmm....ok..then minus 25% (well assume a lot of deductions) for tax....45 K a year take home. Oh.... you still need to save an additional 27K to bring you yearly total to 57K to make your 7 million.....so...carry the one....Your takehome pay is about 18K a year after all your savings.

So you are living on $1500 a month. Thats increadibly reasonable. What is the big deal with all these stupid rich airline pilots that are pissing and moaning about their pensions going away. We can all just live on $1500 a month and be fine.

 

[Echopapa]

Oh....I almost forgott...If you start at 21 years old...when you graduate college...then you only need to save $3737 a month. Which takes your take home pay way up to $2600.

Of course you have student loans and a job to find right out of college making 90K a year.....

But it still sounds very easy.

Plus 2600 is a lot to live on. Heck...you could even afford to buy a condo in a bad part of town with that.

 

[Occam's Razor]

A FUBAR MEC.

Who elected your FUBAR MEC?

Not picking a fight here. I'm just pointing out the way the system works.