CFII Before CFI ?

[Yodafly]

Can you get your CFII before your CFI and where did you find that info

 

[AC560]

Yes see part 61. You could get your MEII first if you wanted, nothing has to be first.

 

[Yodafly]

I could not find anything that would not allow someone to do this but i am not sure you could find an examiner to do it

 

[AC560]

I could not find anything that would not allow someone to do this but i am not sure you could find an examiner to do it

Regulations tend to say what you can't do, not what you can. Show me where it says you can't, part 61 is clear on what the requirements are for each ride. In regards to the DPE, maybe so but the FAA will give you a free checkride and most FSDO's require your initial to be with them anyways.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

May people get their CFI-I first. It may be done by the FSDO or a DPE. It is just that if this is an initial CFI issuance, then most FSDO's require that ride to be done with an inspector and not a DPE. However, if the FSDO can not schedule the ride fairly soon for whatever reason, then they may allow you to go to a DPE authorized for initial flight instructor issuances.

 

[xkuzme1]

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I got my II first, I second, MEI last.

I have a good friend who got his MEI, II, then I. I actually think he got his II in an ME ac.

Anything is possable.

 

[T-prop]

Got my CFII first then CFI a week later.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Did my CFII and then my CFI.

Many CFI programs seem to work this way.

 

[airplane wizard]

Seems like it would make things a little easier because the examiner is pretending to be a private pilot not a student pilot like on the CFI checkride. Get your cfii first with the FAA and do the cfi as an addon with a dpe.

 

[nosehair]

Seems like it would make things a little easier because the examiner is pretending to be a private pilot not a student pilot like on the CFI checkride. Get your cfii first with the FAA and do the cfi as an addon with a dpe.

...and this is the mindset that makes it wrong. It would be ok if the cfi-airplane add-on was just like the all-day affair with the faa, but it's not, and so we end up with a bunch of double-eye and emmy-eye wizards, but no airplane wizards....

 

[Daytonaflyer]

I did my CFII first, and CFI second. It made the initial checkride shorter because I didn't have to do all the complex a/c work until I did my CFI ride. It helps since the instructor initial ride is so long and tedious.

I would recommend doing your CFI first, however, because after having just my CFII, I could not find a flight school to hire me. If I had done my CFI first, I could have been working as a flight instructor while I trained for my CFII checkride.

 

[NW_Pilot]

I am ordering my Videos for my CFI written tests on monday gonna study them on my next trans Atlantic flight take my FOI and CFI on my return. I know a lot of people that did their MEI first.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

I did my CFII first, and CFI second. It made the initial checkride shorter because I didn't have to do all the complex a/c work until I did my CFI ride. It helps since the instructor initial ride is so long and tedious.

I would recommend doing your CFI first, however, because after having just my CFII, I could not find a flight school to hire me. If I had done my CFI first, I could have been working as a flight instructor while I trained for my CFII checkride.

It seems that very few on this Board really understand that there is no such thing as a CFI (only) ride. There is a CFI-Airplane Single Engine ride which is what I think you are talking about, or there is a CFI-Airplane Multiengine ride, but no just plain CFI ride. There are actually 7 possible CFI rides (excluding sport CFI) and any one of them can be taken as an initial ride, most often with the FSDO inspector. Then there are the Add-ons that can be taken with the designees. The designees are really not any easier from what I know of this, but they are more "customer service oriented." What I mean by that is they are available on weedends, evenings and other odd hours that the FSDO is not usually be apt to accomodate. Plus if a designee is used there will be no airworthiness inspector going over your 25-year old airplane (and logs) with a fine tooth comb looking for something or even anything that is irregular such as maybe a hard to read compass correction card or a 5-year old log book entry that was not done correctly. While the designees will review the airworthiness of the airplane they just doesn't have the airworthiness experteese as such an inspector would have. All total, the designees are usually considered to be a better experience, except for their FEE.

 

[Daytonaflyer]

Ugh, I bet you're fun to fly with.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Using the term "CFI" for probably 99% of the people means Single Engine Land. Its the spirit of the term that implies this as no one walks around saying "Hi Im C-F-I-A-S-E-L!" That's a lot of vowels and constanents!! LOL!

No disrespect intended here, just saying that most of us are CFIASEL right out of the gate and its just too much verbage to say all that when everyone knows what you mean. If I walked up to the average pilot and said Im a CFII, theyd know I was a CFI as well.

Traditionally, peeps go CFI, CFII then MEII. But if you want to be different and get a CFII first, no big deal. Good point though you wont be able to teach anything but Instruments.