CFI/II Lesson Plans

[ALIMBO]

Hey UND thanks for the link ya I checked his page out before and its a great starting point.

 

[ALIMBO]

Avbug,

You are the one that started the bashing here. This guy came on here looking for advice and you started beating him down. We have all been in his shoes. I know that I was nervous starting my CFI. Offer some good advice instead of bashing someone. These new CFI's might listen to you more. You seem to have a lot of knowledge that could be helpful to a new guy if it was presented better.

I've learned its better to just laugh at him than listen. He's not the only instructor in the world that can help me and he's certainly not one I would ever go to thats for sure. Thanks for lettin me know you were nervous too. The more and more I talk to people it seems that they felt the same way as I do, which is comforting. I passed my II written so it's less weight on my shoulders. Anyways I guess I can keep posting day by day how class goes since I go every day of the week except for Christmas day.

 

[ALIMBO]

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Ok this is new can someone decipher the visibility section for me. Thanks I know its for Rwy31C and its obviously snowing lol but I can get the rest.

 

[WMUchickenhawk]

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Ok this is new can someone decipher the visibility section for me. Thanks I know its for Rwy31C and its obviously snowing lol but I can get the rest.

Rather than giving you the answer, where do you think you could find it?
I'll even give you a hint. Its an advisory circular.

 

[The_Russian]

Avbug,

You are the one that started the bashing here. This guy came on here looking for advice and you started beating him down. We have all been in his shoes. I know that I was nervous starting my CFI. Offer some good advice instead of bashing someone. These new CFI's might listen to you more. You seem to have a lot of knowledge that could be helpful to a new guy if it was presented better.

Fantastic post.

This seems to be the trend with these guys on here. For some reason they think that the aviation community is supposed to pay them homage for the intellectual "gifts" they give us. Bullcrap. The only thing they dish out to their "peons" is harassment and a condescending reference to one's flying abilities without having ever flown with them. Their behavior evokes these kind of reactions from forum members on purpose so that they may humiliate others in their effort to be the "superior". God forbid you should disagree, because you then lose all credibility with them and become an instantaneous moron.

Too bad it is all a facade boys. You are unintelligent, ignorant, and unprofessional even at your ripe old ages. People dislike you on here, and out there in the working world. You will continue to piss in everyones Cheerios until you die, because no one pilot will ever be a great or as knowledgable as you.

Good luck.

 

[JediNein]

blah blah blah whine whine whimper simper blah blah blah whine.

Your condescending attitude and overwhelming desire to piss on everybody has grown old and boring. Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[ALIMBO]

Rather than giving you the answer, where do you think you could find it?
I'll even give you a hint. Its an advisory circular.

I know its in my aviation weather services book but I left it at school. Damn

 

[ALIMBO]

Hey Russian,

I orderd that cd-rom of cfi lesson plans and books thanks for the help I appreciate it. Avbug is Avbug we all know how he is thank god this forum is nameless or we might realize he could be that guy we despise at the airport o well.

 

[ALIMBO]

Your condescending attitude and overwhelming desire to piss on everybody has grown old and boring. Welcome to my ignore list.

I may be picking up your G1000 and 430/530 manuals they look excellent.

 

[avbug]

Looks like alimbo goes on the ignore list, too.

 

[ALIMBO]

Thank you.

 

[The_Russian]

Your condescending attitude and overwhelming desire to piss on everybody has grown old and boring. Welcome to my ignore list.

Shocked.

I'm not sure I've ever said anything condescending to you or anyone here or on the other board. The only time I have ever lashed out at anyone is when I have been offended or belittled by another poster. Even when I did that, I never considered myself better than any other aviator.

Lately, I have avoided confrontational conversation with everyone except the forum bullies. The fact that I point out that they are mistreating this guy and others does little to bring me close to what you describe me as being.

I am surprised you did not agree with my post. Especially since we are trying to move away from this kind of treatment. God forbid I should defend someone (a fellow pilot) who simply asked for help.

Sorry you feel this way.

 

[WMUchickenhawk]

I know its in my aviation weather services book but I left it at school. Damn

They are available online as well.

 

[xjcaptain]

Simple answer to your question. Find the most respected, knowlegable instructor you know. Then send your students to that person for instruction. The only way you are going to advance, and become a knowlegable professional is to do the work yourself. No shortcuts in aviation, at least none that will help you during crunch time.

 

[skygod75]

Write your own lesson plans. You can use the "canned" stuff for reference but it always pays off to write your own. I took my CFI a "long" time ago and heard a rumor that certain examiners would really put a guy through the paces if he/she saw that the candidate had canned lesson plans. Yes, some examiners can spot those things out. I'm not saying write 'em up on parchment scroll using a quill (although if I was your examiner, I'd be impressed), but make your lesson plans simply that: yours.

Off topic but worth mentioning: I haven't given a single hour of dual instruction in almost 7 years yet I keep my CFI tickets current using any one of the online renewal methods. Am I a competent teacher being 7 years out of the loop? Not even close. Will I have to take the dreaded CFI ride should I ever decide to brush up and provide instruction? No way. Once, as you will see, is enough.

Best of luck on your new endeavour to teach others to fly. It's rewarding for some, but the paycheck for me was less than stellar (also applicable to nearly every facet of this industry).

S.G.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

but the paycheck for me was less than stellar (also applicable to nearly every facet of this industry).

S.G.

This sentiment reminds me of something.

ALIMBO,

Read up on "Operation Lights On."

(Landing light on within 10 miles of the airport.)

You'll most likely deal with Chief Pilots who'll tell you NOT to use your landing light within the vicinity of the airport or practice area (during daylight hours), other than for the TO and landing segment.

Totally UNSAFE. For the paltry salary, it ain't worth complying with this one.

Also, as you go from student to instructor, you'll start to see the evils lurking within aviation maintenance practices. This isn't just an issue within the GA training realm, but encountered at all levels. When you start instructing, be very mindful of the airworthiness of the planes you're scheduled to take out. During down time, hang out with the maintenace guys and chat it up with them. You should also poke around some of the planes in the hanger and learn as much of the mechanical aspects of the schools operations. Don't be surprised to see how much corners get cut in terms of cheap or illegal parts and pen-whipping. One place I worked at had these really incompetent H.S. kids as A&P's. They barely knew what they were doing.

 

[The_Russian]

Write your own lesson plans. You can use the "canned" stuff for reference but it always pays off to write your own. I took my CFI a "long" time ago and heard a rumor that certain examiners would really put a guy through the paces if he/she saw that the candidate had canned lesson plans. Yes, some examiners can spot those things out. I'm not saying write 'em up on parchment scroll using a quill (although if I was your examiner, I'd be impressed), but make your lesson plans simply that: yours.

Off topic but worth mentioning: I haven't given a single hour of dual instruction in almost 7 years yet I keep my CFI tickets current using any one of the online renewal methods. Am I a competent teacher being 7 years out of the loop? Not even close. Will I have to take the dreaded CFI ride should I ever decide to brush up and provide instruction? No way. Once, as you will see, is enough.

Best of luck on your new endeavour to teach others to fly. It's rewarding for some, but the paycheck for me was less than stellar (also applicable to nearly every facet of this industry).

S.G.

Excellent post.

 

[ALIMBO]

The landing light stays on alot of the time for me. A bulb isnt nearly as much as my lifes worth. Thats how I plan on teaching to the student too. I seem to be feeling less stressed too maybe its just because I'm falling into the loop of this school.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Simple answer to your question. Find the most respected, knowlegable instructor you know. Then send your students to that person for instruction. The only way you are going to advance, and become a knowlegable professional is to do the work yourself. No shortcuts in aviation, at least none that will help you during crunch time.

Seriously? Come on. I used a Cessna, or Jepp book initially to get my information because it is nicely condensed and specific to what you need to know. That is more than enough to get you started. As you progress you can delve into the finer points of every obscure FAA circular. Same thing with canned lesson plans. There are some very good instructors who have used their years of experience to produce a product that is successful in teaching people how to fly. Use their outline and technicques to find your own unique teaching style.
The first couple times you are with a student you will be thinking it impossible to get them to do the walk around let alone land. By second and third student it will start to come together. Not because you don't know your stuff, but because it is something you just have to do to become good at. It was the same for everybody on here and it would not matter if you memorized every tidbit of information in every manual. Some of the worst instructors are the know it alls. Some guys on here just like to make it sound like we are sending off a shuttle mission. Why reinvent the wheel.

The best word of wisdom on here is once you get it, do not let your CFI expire. Mine has lapsed twice!!

 

[ALIMBO]

My lesson plans are slowly coming together its just being able to teach them in the plane now. I only have 10 hours of flight time thats counting the check rides too. I still need to get the spin endorsement also.