Breaking Colgan Alpa News

[Dirty Sanchez]

Hey lets get on the side of democracy here. We had a vote and a majority did not want the union. You should support that. Now we take it from here. The Colgans still have their hands in what goes on and that is just fine with most of us. Once this changes then perhaps it is time for us to look into representation. Let us see what Pinnacle has in store for us first. I am sure if they treat us like crap we will get a union. With all the complaining that goes on it is interesting to see that a majority of the company is in support of the Colgans and life as we know it. Next time and I am sure there will be a next time there should be more senior people involved in the OC. Some Beech Fo telling me what is going on in the aviation industry while charming me with free chinese food just didn't cut it.

Maybe next time around you guys can try the teamsters...

 

[70-SS]

I'm glad a few good guys stepped up to the plate to try and make it better.

They sure did. Thanks again. You not be left behind...

 

[SeaCow]

This lose here at Colgan just goes to show why this industry sucks so bad. A bunch of spineless liars running around useing anyone and anything to climb to the stop, even selling out the pilot sitting next to them. And then these bastards become managment and countinue to beat us down. What can I, us OC peps tried, and you ignorant bags of poop just slammed the door shut on any chance we had to be heard.

 

[av8rjo]

I heard that some guys didn't vote because they thought it would pass anyway. Good example that you should always vote no matter what.

 

[tomdav]

If another 9-11 happens why the hell would anyone make a career flying a turboprop? Most people would not stay for 5-10 years they would goto another career if the hiring dries up. BTW we saw what happened to the airline contracts post 9-11. NEXT

Our contract was ratified 9-13-2001. I've been getting a raise every year.

Oh yeah, our senior turboprop folks make six figures.

Thanks Mr Hoffa.

 

[Mr Wu]

Maybe next time around you guys can try the teamsters...

Do the Teamsters have to wait a year?

 

[suupah]

what can i say, this sucks.

 

[Yodafly]

Really thought it would pass, can't believe the pilots would think that voting for Alpa is the wrong way to go.

ALPA, although they suck in so many ways is better then nothing. The thought of some changes gave allot of us hope in some improvements long overdue.

I guess we will all see if the Colgan's looking at at 50% unsatisfactory rate will come up with something for the pilots who backed them...work rules and some industry standard rates on the q400 would be nice.

the ball is back in there court for the next year if the screw it up, next years vote is just 12 months away and I'm sure that people will be less sympathetic if they don't play nice in the sandbox.

disappointed but hopeful

 

[70-SS]

I heard that some guys didn't vote because they thought it would pass anyway.

Pretty sad isn't it. Also pretty lazy.

 

[70-SS]

Maybe next time around you guys can try the teamsters...

Good idea and George Dubya and lead the charge.

 

[FIXIT]

For all of those who voted yes...HA HA. for those who voted no or didn't vote at all, Congrats. ALPA is the devil and you will be better off without them.

 

[70-SS]

For all of those who voted yes...HA HA. .

You shouldn't gloat.

 

[better up here]

For all of those who voted yes...HA HA. for those who voted no or didn't vote at all, Congrats. ALPA is the devil and you will be better off without them.

but we're better off with guys like you on our team?

grow up.

 

[Turtlesfly]

I used to fly for Colgan and I can tell you exactly why it failed

Because you have many senior guys who kiss management's as* and scheduling's as* and demand to be treated like God's gift to aviation (you know some of the people I'm talking about) . . . and they know very well that not everything runs on a perfectly honest seniority basis. If a union comes in that will give more rights to your most junior people, all "favors" given to more senior guys would dissappear. They've got their nitche: they build lines for the guys for crying out loud! The senior capt's want to take advantage of a company that barely honors seniority system so they can get what they want and a union would threaten that.

 

[TurboAWD]

he replied "we are all at this airline to just get our 1000 pic and get out of here, why should we vote a union in that is going to take 2% of our pay"

More shortsighted words have never been spoken.

Newsflash: By accepting crap pay and work rules at Colgan, you are lowering your career earnings no mater where you go next. That is, if you are able to go on to another carrier.

Turbo