Big announcement on Tue at Endeavor.

[i fly boxes]

Majors do not want anything regarding ownership at the regional level. Endeavour will soon vanish like a fart in the wind.

Why? Becuase that's what happened before? Do you think that delta makes billions of dollars a year by just doing things the same as always? Endeavor will be around for a very long time.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Why? Becuase that's what happened before? Do you think that delta makes billions of dollars a year by just doing things the same as always? Endeavor will be around for a very long time.

Well lets see..

What do all of these regionals have in common?

Comair
ASA
Compass

Such a cash cow for Delta that they couldn't unload them fast enough. Delta makes their billions because they have figured it out. And owning regionals is not part of it.

 

[wms]

There's no profitability in a regional. DAL owns them for other non-operational reasons and when they've served their purpose they're gone.

 

[xjhawk]

Same thing was said about Pinnacle/NWA/Mesaba. NWA unloaded Pinnacle to pay their under funded pension plan and when the fake bankruptcy at NWA occurred, they kept paying Pinnacle but….they stopped paying Mesaba (MAIR Holdings), MAIR Holdings had something like 600 million of profits in the bank and did not want to lose it by declaring bankruptcy so they Allowed Mesaba to go into bankruptcy alone as it lost its Avros (moment of silence please). The Deal with their pilots to fly the Avros allowed NWA after their bankruptcy to Buy the 175's and start Compass, the cheap price of Mesaba in the bankruptcy was too good of a deal to pass up. They bought Mesaba for bottom dollar with reduced concessionary rates for the 900's. Guess what everyone was saying during that mesaba bankruptcy? All you know it alls (merciful fate)about mainline and regionals? Yes, that mainline dumped pinnacle, why would they want to guy another one? Guess what genius? they dumped one to make a buck as their pension plans needed funding and created two more. Delta played this from the beginning through deceit and back channels. They sold Mesaba to a company that was mis managed and made promises to pay consolidation costs and then did not pay them. That was the main concern in the bankruptcy-the Colgan Q flying was not profitable but united was ready to pony up the money to keep the flying and then even add more Q's after the fact. But Delta's overall plan to create the money maker called Endeavor was in place, they blocked United, screwed united out of that feed, cut the costs by threatening a "Comair" situation-using mainline ALPA and our local MEC's, who pushed us into signing the bankruptcy deal, got their "B" scale and their servitude pilots making money for their mainline profits and profit sharing checks. Endeavor will self destruct if New hires get a flow-especially after all those Mesaba pilots lost their flow, lost their seniority to ALPA and their wicked ways (DOH over, it only makes sense). I think about 1/2 of the operation will fail to work if that is announced.

 

[20sx]

Couldn't it just be a sign on bonus for new-hires? Come in at 2nd year pay perhaps?

 

[Carl_Spackler]

Couldn't it just be a sign on bonus for new-hires? Come in at 2nd year pay perhaps?

I believe something like that would require union approval. It's also not something that would have the applicants beating a path to the door.

 

[blesko]

So you are saying that SkyWest, Inc., the world's largest regional carrier, will cease to exist? What is your time frame?

when the kool aid runs out

 

[Flyer1015]

Why? Becuase that's what happened before? Do you think that delta makes billions of dollars a year by just doing things the same as always? Endeavor will be around for a very long time.

Historically speaking, JFK/LGA is where Delta sends regionals to die. Mesa/Freedom, Comair, .......

 

[RJLoser]

Well, We're waiting

 

[rumpletumbler]

Endeavor will be the first to install rear facing cameras in the tail of all it's aircraft so as not to run over babies during pushback.