BA 777 "lands short" at Heathrow

[EWR_FO]

Actually you can ask Avianca and a senior JFK controller about that one. Awhile back, but an Avianca 707 crashed on final due to fuel exhustion... NTSB concluded that among the factors was a misuse of 'minimum fuel' as opposed to 'fuel emergency'

I don't think the contoller was faulted because no one declared an emergency.

 

[Britpilot]

May have just been a visual approach gone bad.. anyone who's landed on this runway have any input?

BA does not fly visual approaches. As far as i am aware it is all ILS into LHR.

 

[elag777]

So Brit pilots are invincible?

And they don't have engine failures at departure (KLAX), determine it's ok to press on to London with 3 engines, then realize they don't have enough gas to make it so they need to stop anyway??

Maybe landing considerably overweight 100,000lbs? was not a good idea?

 

[ttflyer]

Maybe landing considerably overweight 100,000lbs? was not a good idea?

Don't some of those big airplanes have fuel dump? I thought I read about that somewhere....

 

[FCPhotography]

777 guys? How long is a flight of that nature? If the weather was good, no alternate, not much extra fuel. Maybe one engine did flame out earlier and maybe they were keeping it amongst themselves. Might explain why one witness said louder than normal (other engine at full power for a little bit if gear and flaps are down and you are below the power curve dragging it in)

A better explanation would be just bad luck and a bunch of geese. A C-5 once lost 3 engines out of Dover and made it back around after takeoff.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

I don't think the contoller was faulted because no one declared an emergency.

You are correct, the word "emergency" was never used. Instead, they told the controller 5 different times that they were "running out of fuel" and the government had to settle out of court for a very,very large sum

 

[SonicPig]

Maybe landing considerably overweight 100,000lbs? was not a good idea?

Dump fuel NumbNuts!! It wasn't a 320.

 

[Flying-Corporal]

autoland has gone wrong?

 

[samballs]

Wasn't there a 767 on the way to Hawaii a few years ago that had a dual engine flame-out due to some fuel pump/ transfer procedure or something? They re-lite of course.

I was thinking the same thing, wasn't it DAL and there happen to be a reporter on board?

 

[airplane wizard]

"damm bloody autoland"

 

[sgu]

They may have taken noise abatement a bit too far..:erm:

 

[aa73]

at least we can definitely rule out volcanic ash this time...

 

[737 Pylt]

About what I'd expect from people who live in a part of the world where strapping some C4 to your body and exploding it in a crowd of innocents is the equivalent of taking Communion.

I'm glad to see that with posts like the above you are living up to your name!

737

 

[retired guy]

A flock of Geese (actually a gaggle of Geese)?...Those big ol fans could swallow the entire lot of them without even a burp. Lessee...both engines quit, hard landing, both mains broken off, one through the wing, both wings broken, no spilled Jet A, no foam....hmmmm...

 

[MJ42]

Don't some of those big airplanes have fuel dump? I thought I read about that somewhere....

A320's have fuel dump capabilities, at least the pax thought so as they watched live tv from the cabin!