BA 777 "lands short" at Heathrow

[Dumb Pilot]

I don't think the contoller was faulted because no one declared an emergency.

You are correct, the word "emergency" was never used. Instead, they told the controller 5 different times that they were "running out of fuel" and the government had to settle out of court for a very,very large sum

 

[SonicPig]

Maybe landing considerably overweight 100,000lbs? was not a good idea?

Dump fuel NumbNuts!! It wasn't a 320.

 

[Flying-Corporal]

autoland has gone wrong?

 

[samballs]

Wasn't there a 767 on the way to Hawaii a few years ago that had a dual engine flame-out due to some fuel pump/ transfer procedure or something? They re-lite of course.

I was thinking the same thing, wasn't it DAL and there happen to be a reporter on board?

 

[airplane wizard]

"damm bloody autoland"

 

[sgu]

They may have taken noise abatement a bit too far..:erm:

 

[aa73]

at least we can definitely rule out volcanic ash this time...

 

[737 Pylt]

About what I'd expect from people who live in a part of the world where strapping some C4 to your body and exploding it in a crowd of innocents is the equivalent of taking Communion.

I'm glad to see that with posts like the above you are living up to your name!

737

 

[retired guy]

A flock of Geese (actually a gaggle of Geese)?...Those big ol fans could swallow the entire lot of them without even a burp. Lessee...both engines quit, hard landing, both mains broken off, one through the wing, both wings broken, no spilled Jet A, no foam....hmmmm...

 

[MJ42]

Don't some of those big airplanes have fuel dump? I thought I read about that somewhere....

A320's have fuel dump capabilities, at least the pax thought so as they watched live tv from the cabin!

 

[regionaltard]

I'm glad to see that with posts like the above you are living up to your name!

737

Pile O', yer back! Word on the street was that your last catfight got a bit out of hand and you earned that dreaded third strike. How ya been? Excited about Merger Mania? Sounds like there could be a new uniform in it for you which, plus a full length mirror, would be just like a brand new girlfriend, huh?

 

[fareview]

How old was the Captain?

43

fv

 

[Cardinal]

A better explanation would be just bad luck and a bunch of geese. A C-5 once lost 3 engines out of Dover and made it back around after takeoff.

...And a C-5 once lost 1 engine out of Dover, and through gross mismanagment wrecked short of the runway.

Incidentally, if the engine failure case proves to be true, this makes an excellent case against stabilized approaches.

 

[SELCAL checks]

yep, those BA guys are really on the ball.

I've shut down an engine in a 727 shortly after takeoff, and we elected to continue to our destination. Was it legal?

121.565 (b)

If the PIC can satisfy the requirements of this FAR, then I think it's inappropriate to second guess the decision to continue, since we aren't privy to the information that was available to this pilot during his flight.

 

[say again]

I've shut down an engine in a 727 shortly after takeoff, and we elected to continue to our destination. Was it legal?

Legal and smart are two different things!!!!

 

[fatboyplt]

Does anyone know if BA has started using inert gas in their fuel cells. Also yes all the apps into LHR are ILS's with a 160 til 4 DME.
Could one glide at 400' 1.2 mi from the end? Do not want to know..
Regardless Bejing to LHR you will be low on gas. However if redispatched it is perfectly safe and legal if you do not have a huge wind bust etc after your redispatch point.
Lastly the facts will come out shortly and we all will learn from this situation. Right now everything is pure conjecture...

Birdman
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Curently on tour with the 82nd Airborne

 

[turbinej]

Captain is 43 years old and had been with BA for 20 years according to Skynews here in UK.

 

[UKflyer]

Some interesting pictures taken by a Heathrow resident photographer can be found here:

http://www.heathrowpictures.com/pictures/pictures.html

A pilot attempted the same 'double engine failure' scenario at 400-600' in a 777 full motion simulator and found that the glide distance and subsequent touchdown point was almost exact to where the BA plane seems to have been put down.

 

[DOVPILOT]

A better explanation would be just bad luck and a bunch of geese. NOT!!!

A C-5 once lost 3 engines out of Dover and made it back around after takeoff.

And one C-5 lost one engine and didn't make it, human error has a lot to do with a lot of accidents. Just pray it never happens to you.

 

[Erlanger]

There was no fire. Could they of ran it out of gas? But they would of known about their fuel situation and then tryed to make to all the way home?