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Pilotpayne and Smarta$$,

I neither work for JB and nor do I care to - especially as things stand now and based on what people tell me. Several friends there and all are looking to leave. Not one happy to be there. Most have applied to UAL and all are waiting for Delta to open up. Face it, JB is mediocre at best and the health benefits blow. Everyone agrees with that. Enjoy your Embraers on your regional-like routes. I am sure you feel like Chuck Yeager and that you are so lucky to be flying for the "Wal-Mart" of the airline industry. Good for you and God Bless!!! 10+ year upgrade, no union support with a two-faced management team, terrible health benefits, one small West Coast domicile, constant flying into headache-inducing JFK. Gee, JB sounds like an awesome career airline...

There are better choices out there. UAL is opening up and Delta should start in a year or so according to my internal contacts. Don't get me wrong - the JB crews are all great when I jumpseat and the planes/IFE are great for the pax.

Smarta$$ - it is hilarious how much of a JB zealot you are... No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it is still a pig... Most people, given the choice, who choose UAL or Delta or FedEx ANY day of the week vs. JB. I, like my friends, will gladly wait for a major and leverage my solid, growing network.

Meanwhile, keep making a fool of yourself Smarta$$ with your lame slams and insecure statements. Wow - you fly an E190 on regional routes! You've made it!!!!

I don't care where you do or do not want to work. I don't care. The fact that you have to interject yourself into jetBlue threads from your little tiny regional perch says more about you than anything else. Maybe Allegiant will call you, maybe they won't. What I do know, is that you will NEVER get through a major airline interview, so enjoy your little regional airline.

As for your "career advice", you are exactly the kind of person that would have told someone to leave SWA for UAL in 1999-2000, and exactly the kind of person whose opinion I will never value.
 
I don't care where you do or do not want to work. I don't care. The fact that you have to interject yourself into jetBlue threads from your little tiny regional perch says more about you than anything else. Maybe Allegiant will call you, maybe they won't. What I do know, is that you will NEVER get through a major airline interview, so enjoy your little regional airline.

As for your "career advice", you are exactly the kind of person that would have told someone to leave SWA for UAL in 1999-2000, and exactly the kind of person whose opinion I will never value.

Really? Coming from a guy who flew the ERJ himself and now flies a "bigger" jungle jet. Having flown the 747 worldwide a few years back, I can tell you, until you fly really big aircraft, everything else is "tiny." The size of the jet should not matter - salary, benefits, schedule/days off, variety of flying and union support/protection from whipsawing management should be the points that really matter. Jetblue does not seem steller in any of those categories.

FYI - I am currently flying a "tiny" Challenger 300 for a very wealthy individual and make nearly $200K with 15+ days off per month. You can keep your high perch on your "heavy" E190.
 
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Heavy not calling bs but why would a guy pay you 200k when he could get a current and qualified cl30 captain for half that?

plus i agree with you there are some young n dumb fo's that we hired recently that have no concept of reality.. I remember some buffoon a couple months back carrying on like a fool that he made 9k for the month because of extensive irops.

They live their life judging the advancement of their career based on the lowest paying entry level job they ever had making spit.. oooh a shiny jet and 45k the first year 15k more than i made after 4 years at ( insert any of the craphole regionals)
 
Heavy not calling bs but why would a guy pay you 200k when he could get a current and qualified cl30 captain for half that?

plus i agree with you there are some young n dumb fo's that we hired recently that have no concept of reality.. I remember some buffoon a couple months back carrying on like a fool that he made 9k for the month because of extensive irops.

They live their life judging the advancement of their career based on the lowest paying entry level job they ever had making spit.. oooh a shiny jet and 45k the first year 15k more than i made after 4 years at ( insert any of the craphole regionals)

Clickboomboom,

You get what you negotiate. I am now the Chief Pilot (owner disliked the previous CP) and the owner values my international experience (I guess 747 time is attractive to some people) and I get a high six figure base plus a bonus based on specific metrics. Simple as that. Nearly $200k for me is nothing to my owner - he wants safe flying for his family and he values my experience. I negotiated a great package for myself and my team and the owner is happy. Best job I have ever had.
 
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Really? Coming from a guy who flew the ERJ himself and now flies a "bigger" jungle jet. Having flown the 747 worldwide a few years back, I can tell you, until you fly really big aircraft, everything else is "tiny." The size of the jet should not matter - salary, benefits, schedule/days off, variety of flying and union support/protection from whipsawing management should be the points that really matter. Jetblue does not seem steller in any of those categories.

FYI - I am currently flying a "tiny" Challenger 300 for a very wealthy individual and make nearly $200K with 15+ days off per month. You can keep your high perch on your "heavy" E190.

Disparaging people who fly an RJ is not directed at anyone but johnsonrod. It is he alone that I have a problem with from an extensive history of d-baggery comments. I will ignore the rest of your comments since you are not familiar with the situation and are apparently unaware of my overall understanding of what is really important, having taken my post at face value and without full context.
 
Pilotpayne and Smarta$$,

I neither work for JB and nor do I care to - especially as things stand now and based on what people tell me. Several friends there and all are looking to leave. Not one happy to be there. Most have applied to UAL and all are waiting for Delta to open up. Face it, JB is mediocre at best and the health benefits blow. Everyone agrees with that. Enjoy your Embraers on your regional-like routes. I am sure you feel like Chuck Yeager and that you are so lucky to be flying for the "Wal-Mart" of the airline industry. Good for you and God Bless!!! 10+ year upgrade, no union support with a two-faced management team, terrible health benefits, one small West Coast domicile, constant flying into headache-inducing JFK. Gee, JB sounds like an awesome career airline...

There are better choices out there. UAL is opening up and Delta should start in a year or so according to my internal contacts. Don't get me wrong - the JB crews are all great when I jumpseat and the planes/IFE are great for the pax.

Smarta$$ - it is hilarious how much of a JB zealot you are... No matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it is still a pig... Most people, given the choice, who choose UAL or Delta or FedEx ANY day of the week vs. JB. I, like my friends, will gladly wait for a major and leverage my solid, growing network.

Meanwhile, keep making a fool of yourself Smarta$$ with your lame slams and insecure statements. Wow - you fly an E190 on regional routes! You've made it!!!!


Yet it seems like you do care.
So, who do you work for?
Next time you jumpseat just tell the guys what you posted when asking for a ride on an airline you hate so much.
 
Really? Coming from a guy who flew the ERJ himself and now flies a "bigger" jungle jet. Having flown the 747 worldwide a few years back, I can tell you, until you fly really big aircraft, everything else is "tiny." The size of the jet should not matter - salary, benefits, schedule/days off, variety of flying and union support/protection from whipsawing management should be the points that really matter. Jetblue does not seem steller in any of those categories.

FYI - I am currently flying a "tiny" Challenger 300 for a very wealthy individual and make nearly $200K with 15+ days off per month. You can keep your high perch on your "heavy" E190.

I am not sure he was talking about the size of the plane.
Thanks for telling us how much you make, do you feel better now?
 
Lets be honest, unlike other jobs, the difference in our jobs is that whether we are getting paid 200k or 20k we still need to do it safely because it is our azz on the line, too. Of course we can talk about experience and what we feel we're worth but at the end of the day, once we're in the flight deck, it doesn't really matter if you make 200k or not. You are going to do that job the same way that any other professional pilot would. Airline management knows this well.

As for your owner, good for you if you got to negotiate your package and your owner is happy with you. I'm sure there are people who will do the exact same job as you in the exact same professinonal manner, for less.
 

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