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This is a small industry and people (especially us pilots) talk and compare. Several former Expressjet friends now at JB. Not many are happy and a high % have apps out to UAL and are waiting for Delta to start hiring. This should be great news for you guys since you will gain some seniority when they leave. You're welcome!
 
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This is a small industry and people (especially us pilots) talk and compare. Several former Expressjet friends now at JB. Not many are happy and a high % have apps out to UAL and are waiting for Delta to start hiring. This should be great news for you guys since you will gain some seniority when they leave. You're welcome!

Your friends' opinions aren't the issue: it's you. You don't work at JB therefore, you have no relevant experience. It's going to be very difficult for you to circumvent the HR process (at least for the first couple of years, until they really need pilots) Report back when you get your first interview. Or should I say second?;)
 
LOf course we can talk about experience and what we feel we're worth but at the end of the day, once we're in the flight deck, it doesn't really matter if you make 200k or not. You are going to do that job the same way that any other professional pilot would. Airline management knows this well.
If airlines could keep experience in the flight deck then maybe a new FO who was paired with a weak CA would not have selected Flaps up when the aircraft was in a high AOA with fire wall torque but deep in a stall.

But oh well they paid the price and so did the passengers.
 
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If airlines could keep experience in the flight deck then maybe a new FO who was paired with a weak CA would not have selected Flaps up when the aircraft was in a high AOA with fire wall torque but deep in a stall.

But oh well they paid the price and so did the passengers.

Is firewall torque 75 percent?
 
If airlines could keep experience in the flight deck then maybe a new FO who was paired with a weak CA would not have selected Flaps up when the aircraft was in a high AOA with fire wall torque but deep in a stall.

But oh well they paid the price and so did the passengers.

She was sick and tired, not a good combination. Couple that with the law of undoing what you last did to solve a problem, and the flaps went up. Psychologically speaking, putting the flaps down was followed moments later with a pitch up and out of control so she un-did it and announced it.
 
She was sick and tired, not a good combination. Couple that with the law of undoing what you last did to solve a problem, and the flaps went up. Psychologically speaking, putting the flaps down was followed moments later with a pitch up and out of control so she un-did it and announced it.
Thanks for the input Mr. Cohen.
 
While the flaps might have been the death blow, that airplane was on a path to disaster long before that flap lever moved. I still for the life of me cannot fathom why a trained aviator would respond to a stall by continuing to pitch up 20 degrees at a reduced power setting.
 
While the flaps might have been the death blow, that airplane was on a path to disaster long before that flap lever moved. I still for the life of me cannot fathom why a trained aviator would respond to a stall by continuing to pitch up 20 degrees at a reduced power setting.

A/P trimmed full nose up as the A/S slowed.

A/P then gave up and handed A/C to the crew.

Then Torque was increase which exacerbated the nose up moment.

Moving the FLAPS to from 15 to 0 (not 5 as Mr Cohen posted) was the last link to be broken. The entire crew pairing was a disaster waiting to happen and when the Majors start to hire the regionals will be in dire straights with low time FOs paired with Misfit Island CAs. The type of crew Roger calls "qualified".
 

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