Avantair called

[avbug]

Guys and/or gals...this forum does have a private message system in order that intellectual discussions such as this may be carried on in the playground rather than the classroom.

Why has every single thread regarding avantair degenerated to this level? This isn't the case with the other fractionals. This isn't necessary, and regardless of your agenda, this doesn't paint yourselves or the company in a good light...no reason for that. Save professional discussion for public display, and carry the petty personality clashes elsewhere. I believe several of these threads were started by folks who were really interested in information about your company.

I hope that whatever problems you may have, you are able to sort them out and everyone is happy. But stick to fact. You've spent pages and pages of thread doing nothing but attempting to discredit each other with nothing to show for it, no meaningful information, no semblence of credibility, and have rarely come close to the thread topic. Enough already.

 

[corpflunkie]

Thankyou AvBug

 

[Mr. Pebbles]

Why has every single thread regarding avantair degenerated to this level? This isn't the case with the other fractionals.

Now that is a question someone should have asked a long time ago. I believe one answer to that question is that some folks want to expose scumbags for what they are.

 

[Roma]

Pebbles you need to grow up!

 

[Mr. Pebbles]

Pebbles you need to grow up!

I'll take that with a grain of salt since it's your first post and you joined this month. Enough said.

 

[Hung Start]

Ok, Mr. Pebbles:

Here is another grain of salt. I don't work there, I joined a couple of years ago, I do enjoy reading about different companies, as I am still young enough to be of some value if I choose to apply. And my listed experience is true.

You don't work there, you have said so. Nobody really cares for second, third, fifth(?) hand information.

Complaints and critisism from actual employees is held in some regard. The same from someone who claims to be "writing what I am told" really stinks.

'nuff said.

Hung

 

[Roma]

Yes, I did join this month. I am reading up on all the fractionals and you can go back through previous threads to see what has been said.

So are there any good new rumors out there about Avantair or any other fractionals? How is the growth in the fractional/corporate market. Every magazine that I read say that the the corporate market is taking off and is going to really grow over the next year or so.

I hear Avantair is a great place to work. One of my buddies from college works there and he says he loves it (really gets to see the whole country). I just have to wait until they open up spots in Florida. Until then, I'm going to read the forums to see what is going on.

 

[CherryBomb]

Yes, I did join this month. I am reading up on all the fractionals and you can go back through previous threads to see what has been said.

So are there any good new rumors out there about Avantair or any other fractionals? How is the growth in the fractional/corporate market. Every magazine that I read say that the the corporate market is taking off and is going to really grow over the next year or so.

I hear Avantair is a great place to work. One of my buddies from college works there and he says he loves it (really gets to see the whole country). I just have to wait until they open up spots in Florida. Until then, I'm going to read the forums to see what is going on.

Everyone was new to flightinfo at one time. Who cares if a guy has just joined?? Some people seem to think that you're opinion doesn't mater just because you havent gotten involved in a trivial little message board. Ugh...


Roma: I hapen to enjoy Avantair. Its a fun, fair company. A few people here have other opinions. We have rumors of huge growth, and then again something weired in management or the economy could cause the place to go bankrupt tommorow, but that could happen ANYWHERE.

As it stands right now, I think its a well run company with a promising future. There isnt really another place I'd rather be.

I just woke up after a long night, Im tired, Im sure my spelling is horrible.... PM me if you or anyone else wants any info...

 

[Mr. Pebbles]

Ok, Mr. Pebbles:

Here is another grain of salt. I don't work there, I joined a couple of years ago, I do enjoy reading about different companies, as I am still young enough to be of some value if I choose to apply. And my listed experience is true.

You don't work there, you have said so. Nobody really cares for second, third, fifth(?) hand information.

Complaints and critisism from actual employees is held in some regard. The same from someone who claims to be "writing what I am told" really stinks.

'nuff said.

Hung

Hey there Hung Start- don't care if you think it stinks or not. I have alot friends who work for Avantair, and when my friends ask me to do something, heck, I'll do it for them. Guess they want everyone to know things aren't quite as kosher as some want to say..... From what I've seen firsthand even though I don't work there....... I know I would'nt work there for any money.

 

[Mr. Pebbles]

Yes, I did join this month. I am reading up on all the fractionals and you can go back through previous threads to see what has been said.

So are there any good new rumors out there about Avantair or any other fractionals? How is the growth in the fractional/corporate market. Every magazine that I read say that the the corporate market is taking off and is going to really grow over the next year or so.

I hear Avantair is a great place to work. One of my buddies from college works there and he says he loves it (really gets to see the whole country). I just have to wait until they open up spots in Florida. Until then, I'm going to read the forums to see what is going on.

Roma,

Wasn't attacking you with the earlier post. There's been several people, specifically Avantair management, that just change their screen name as soon as their bull******************** get found out, that a newly joined member who joins these threads is under suspicion. If you're for real, best of luck with all you do, buddy. :beer:

 

[whiskytangofoxt]

Joe, lay off

 

[Mr. Pebbles]

Joe, lay off

Joe??? Wrong. Try again. And is that an order? Please.....

 

[myrealnameis]

Jesus ...........talk about hijacking a thread.........

 

[indefinitehold]

This stuff never stops, does it guys?

 

[Mr. Pebbles]

Jesus ...........talk about hijacking a thread.........

You guys are pathetic- as soon as someone does not agree with you or blows the whistle on your crap- the thread is hijacked.

 

[phishn@daves]

Jesus ...........talk about hijacking a thread.........

No, My first name aint "Jesus"..............it's "Janet", Miss Jackson if you're Nasty.

 

[CAP E TON]

I have to ask what is the beef with avantair? Every company has its flaws. To grow as big as it has in the past 2 years, it must not be that bad ? I have flown for the bottom terrible companys in florida,ie sas, bia... and compared to them avantair is heaven. I have seen this web site get people jobs and other good things, use it for that. you all should try only posting information that you took on first hand, not what your friend said who has only worked for a 121 because from my experience younger 121 aviators dont know a thing about corporate and vise versa.

 

[Jetz]

would you

and when my friends ask me to do something, heck, I'll do it for them. Guess they want everyone to know things aren't quite as kosher as some want to say......

Would you wash and wax their Waco or 182 if they asked you. imp:

 

[B19 Flyer]

I have to ask what is the beef with avantair? quote]


Here's the deal. There are a couple of former employees (one of them a former flight ops manager that quit in disgrace) that are bitter because they felt they didn’t get a fair shake and left the company. They got a fair shake, but chose to believe they were being singled out for no reason. They like to use the board to spread their ill will because nobody else inside the company will give them the right time of day. Most of us in the game know that "pebbles" is either one of them or closely tied to them. Our best guess is that it’s the former manager based on the extreme bitterness. This is evident by the posts, all of the false accusations and "known" information hasn't changed since the time he left in March. They can’t really get new info, because current employees won’t associate with any of them, partly because of their posts on this board but mostly because we enjoy working at Avantair and just get tired of their BS. Avantair is an amazing place to work and yes, there are growing pains. I can tell you though, that this is the place to be right now for to fly in the fractional world. The last six months have seen amazing things happen and it’s only going to get better as the company grows. So, for those of us working at Avantair, there is no beef and we choose to be here because we want to be. If you look at all the negative posters, there are only a specific few and they all have the same twists to them. As I’ve posted before, ignore these folks and look at all the great posts by current employees that work for the company. Those far outweigh the opinions of these select few idiots.

 

[Drifter]

Firstly, I don't work for Avantair but here's what I think. Everybody I have talked to really likes it there. They like the airplane, they like the flying and I have never heard any BS about management or maintenance issues. I don't care where you work, or what you fly, there will always be some maintenance issues. These same issues may not be issues to others because we all have different personal limits and different experiences. As far as management is concerned, who cares? A pilot is a pilot. Of course we all think we know more than management and could run the company better and that everybody should listen to us. Well some pilots run their mouths way too much and I don't blame management for not listening sometimes. Guys like Pebbles ruin the common voice of the pilot and this creates a barrier between us and them. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Pebbles feels like he was burned by Avantair somehow and maybe 180puke too. Which, by the level of their professionalism on this board, seems like it was more than likely justified. Anyway, thats my 2 pennies. Flame on!