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Atlas Air FIRES 24 Crewmembers; possible Atlas AND Polar Strike!

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pookie said:
He is a pinnacle pilot and i think i know who he is. He talks about his posts often and is not ashamed of it. It will catch up with him soon. I also heard about his girlfriend. He is such a tool.

Please let us know this guys name. I am sure many of us look forward to meeting him if he tries to jumpseat. (Key word 'tries')
 
RideandDrive said:
The calls went out today to fire the Classic folks.

That is correct. 15 more probationary crewmembers were wrongfully terminated this afternoon.
 
furloughfodder said:
That is correct. 15 more probationary crewmembers were wrongfully terminated this afternoon.

Wow - now that's hardball! Again, are these people then offered interviews at Atlas? What happens to current pilots in the Atlas pool - are they given preference over former Polar pilots now looking for positions at Atlas or will former Polar pilots be offered any slots at Atlas first?

It's a frustrating and confusing situation - good luck to everyone involved!
 
To Polar/Atlas: Our time is now! Our MEC's are united and we should be united!
Stay the course and stand together!:mad:
 
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I find it interesting, all the comments of "how can they do this" etc etc, when in essence, the freight management is doing what it's always known how to do. They know there's ample supply of guys on the street, and here comes the intimidation. Again, look back in history and you'll see it, time and time again, yet the newbies to the industry, they are shocked.......oh well...
 
Crzipilot said:
I find it interesting, all the comments of "how can they do this" etc etc, when in essence, the freight management is doing what it's always known how to do. They know there's ample supply of guys on the street, and here comes the intimidation. Again, look back in history and you'll see it, time and time again, yet the newbies to the industry, they are shocked.......oh well...

Mr. 6000 hour wonderboy who has been around the block huh? I hope you were not trying to say "told you so". Saying "oh well"... good luck in your future. Name one company that fired every probationary pilot.
 
no short thrust, that wasn't the jist of my post. the oh well was the new kids coming into the industry that are shocked by what what is going on at polar. Yes it sucks, but if you look back in the past of the non-sked world, it's not unheard of. Hell I know one company where the president walked in on a saturday, called in the HR person had had them send out furlough notices to HALF the pilots. so ya...I've seen it.... as to wonderboy, no, just did the nonsked world 727/dc8's for about 10 years...so yeah I've been around the block, though by no means as much as some of the guys out there

Anyways the post was more along the lines of, the new kids that came up through the schools, to the regionals and jumping to the big iron, and now they are shocked......

Oh and BTW I have 4 or 5 friends that have been at polar now for 4-7 yrs....so ya...it sucks.
 
Mr 6000 hour wonderboy hasn't got a clue. And, by the looks at what he thinks is a situation that should have been "expected" by the "new kids" (most of which probably have twice the experience as he), he has obviously been abused in his career. He may even qualify for management.

YEA, it sucks and it is not normal nor ethical for this to happen.


Another thing....I love it when people qualify themselves by saying things like.."jumping from the regionals to the big iron". An airplane is an airplane dude. We're all trainable and frankly, the "big iron" is alot easier to fly than the "little iron". We're all impressed with your ability!
 
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I think I know what you are trying to say crzipilot. But I know for a fact that about 85% of the terminated Polar pilots are ex-TWA, USAir, ATA, AA etc.

These guys have been "around the block".
 
furloughfodder said:
I think I know what you are trying to say crzipilot. But I know for a fact that about 85% of the terminated Polar pilots are ex-TWA, USAir, ATA, AA etc.

These guys have been "around the block".

Probably more like 90 to 95%.

My class of 12 only had one or maybe two pilots that was not from a major airline.
And the ones that were not had large amounts of experience in other areas.

There are no "Low Timers" or "New Kids" at Polar. New to the airline and the 747 yes, not to the industry.
 
crzipilot

"Anyways the post was more along the lines of, the new kids that came up through the schools, to the regionals and jumping to the big iron, and now they are shocked......"

I came up thru a aviation school, to the regionals, jumped into "big iron", supposed to start class with Polar last week - Not shocked at what is happening. What's your point? Let me guess, you walked uphill 5 miles both ways to school and paid your dues in the industry which makes you an authority on the subject?
 
Yo crzi pilot, get a clue.....just because theres alot of pilots on the street doesnt mean sh&t. It would take a year to train 100 pilots off the street and by then Polar would be in bankruptcy.Also, Polar is scheduled service.
 
I would hate to see Atlas or Polar go belly up, Personally for me, I love the747, I was in kindergarten when I flew on it, Let's face the truth, aviation can be a tough world, like garbage hauling or anyone who works, prices have gone up up and away.

YOU MUST LOVE WHAT YOU DO. you have to invest and save every dime and penny on the side. No one will bail us out in the long run, it is about truth and spirit. my cousin sells stone, believe me this is a tuff business more than aviation, Hard work, PAYS!

oK SORRY, I think I may be getting lost on my point, but I was on the famous flight of Atlas, which, blew up and lost an engine in guiykille, in ecuador in april of 2000, believe me, it was hetic, we lost the number 1 at 400 feet, and was on fire for 15 minutes, I still have the shrapnel which I saved, I remember the captain, who did everthing correctly and it was critical, and if it wasn't for the captain who did his job, I would not be alive today.

So thanks to the Captain of Atlas who saved my life and if you love fly flying keep flying or change, there are many opportunties out there, just know that! lots!

MissKittyKat


Always a friend in need!

I'm a female not a pilot, but trying to understand them.


xoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoo
 
Right!

MissKittyKat said:
YOU MUST LOVE WHAT YOU DO. xoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoo

Or. Alternatively: You should love who you do.

Or. Perhaps: You do those you love.

Or. Maybe: Love the one you're with or be with those who love the one you do who have done what you've done.

I dunno.

Peace.
 

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