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Atlas Air FIRES 24 Crewmembers; possible Atlas AND Polar Strike!

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:cool: Polar guys/gals, good luck with everything. I do hope to work there someday, but who knows? If there is a picket line, I would be glad to walk it with you folks anytime! God Bless!
 
Screwed up situation, good luck guys. I'd swear some of these executives get together in Aspen on a weekend getaway and swap notes.
 
Thanks for all the kind words and yes unfortunately it seems the next batch will be terminated Monday and join the C23 (one resigned before he got fired). Hopefully we'll all get through this and get ALL the new hires back. We'll know in approx 18days, and if we have to walk, so be it!

Thks again for the moral support guys and gals.

(forget 410, bait...)
 
I don't think we will be hearing too much from 410dude anymore. ;)

Good luck Polar guys/gals. Your only hope is for ALPA to file an injunction....but we all know they won't do that. It wouldn't cost them anything, and they wouldn't lose a thing. Since ALPA National is in the pocket of Erickson and Cato.....dont plan on it...
 
How many are in the next batch?

Was heading down to MIA to do simulator training in June. KPIT-KMIA and there was a US Airways pilot onboard who I spoke with. He just resigned after 21 years at US Airways and was 100 from the bottom on the US Airways seniority list.

He said he just got hired by Polar and was going to the right seat of the
B747-400.

Does anyone know by class dates how deep the firing will go?

Just a thought, I would look at other pilot groups who left the cockpit. It might give the Polar pilot group an idea on the right course of action.

Thanks and Good Luck to the Polar and Atlas Pilots.

CWI
 
Good luck to all the long-haul freight guys at Polar/Atlas!

410 is a tool and looks like he was GIA PFT. Just ignore him!
 
furloughfodder said:
I don't think we will be hearing too much from 410dude anymore. ;)

Did someone find out who he is?
 
Concerning 410dude, I hope somebody found out who he is. Me thinks he must have benn dropped on his head one too many times as a child.

To the Polar/Atlas guys, the best of luck to ya! If you do any picketing in ORD, let us all know. Some of us at AWAC will come out to support you.

Rekks
 
410dude said:
No i'm not kidding. It's been my dream since i started to fly to fly a 747 and i'll be danged if i'm going let anything get in my way of fulfilling that dream.

Here's a few things that 410 can look forward to if he does this...
Never ever being hired at any other airline,
being denied jumpseats,
busting checkrides,
ending up hauling checks in a lance till
doomsday after xxx number of busted rides
(Because you got fired from the company that
you were so ready to help).

Don't do it. Yeah, it seems like a good idea
now. This is a smaller business than you think
and if you do it your career is effectively over.

Ask around if you don't believe me...

Oh yeah, there are lots of more qualified
and equally enthusiastic people out there
wanting that job at polar...that can't seem
to get a foot in the door.

If you are really "dreaming of the majors" you
need to find out how it is done and play by
the rules or you are going to be in really
deep kimchee. I've watched your type too
many times. Got your stuff in at the
alter-egos yet?

My friends at Polar,

Hang tough! Good Luck and best wishes!
 
CWI, probably something like 28 tomorrow unfortunately.

And the guy you met was definitely in the C23, ALL 400 newhires were terminated, only on resigned before he got the letter.
 
28 tomorrow? Is this conspiracy-type thinking or for real? 28 more people would wipe out five people I know at Polar...!! :(
 
It will probably happen.

If ALPA would just file an injunction against this violation of status quo these people would not be terminated tomorrow. But they refuse to do so. It appears the furloughees are being sold down the river....again....
 
belchfire said:
Never ever being hired at any other airline,

aren't there quite a bunch at Continental?

busting checkrides,

Yeah, I know an Eastern Scab, he's now an FAA Examiner in Naples Florida, busting students on checkrides... $250 a pop. Does that count? He's also flying a CJ1 for a private owner, now probably making much more than the Eastern Pilots he scabbed out of a job.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like scabs, but is it really still such a careerbuster?
 
Yeah, I know an Eastern Scab, he's now an FAA Examiner in Naples Florida, busting students on checkrides... $250 a pop. Does that count? He's also flying a CJ1 for a private owner, now probably making much more than the Eastern Pilots he scabbed out of a job.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like scabs, but is it really still such a careerbuster?

Some will slip through the cracks, but or every guy like the one you mentioned, there are LOTS more that have ended their career.
 
One correction; One question

furloughfodder said:
Jim Cato is they guy in charge of labor relations at Atlas, and the firings were ordered by him and Denis Erickson.

The CEO is *Jeff* Ericson.

Question: Are probationary crewmembers protected by the CBA?

I understand during probation the company can terminate employment for any reason. Just wondering what recourse exists for probationary crewmembers.

I read the part about a class action law suit. Good luck to everyone.
 
I hope those manager mother*uckers burn in he((.
 
Sunnfun said:
aren't there quite a bunch at Continental?



Yeah, I know an Eastern Scab, he's now an FAA Examiner in Naples Florida, busting students on checkrides... $250 a pop. Does that count? He's also flying a CJ1 for a private owner, now probably making much more than the Eastern Pilots he scabbed out of a job.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like scabs, but is it really still such a careerbuster?

Is that because he scams $250 per private pilot? CJ1, well you know he is always looking up wishing, knowing that this is all the better it is going to get. So yes captain of a CJ1, yep that would be a career buster.
 
He is a pinnacle pilot and i think i know who he is. He talks about his posts often and is not ashamed of it. It will catch up with him soon. I also heard about his girlfriend. He is such a tool.
 

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