Ati hiring

[b707guy]

OK, thanks for the clarification on GUA = MGGT. My bad. Either way, I'm done beating my head against this wall.

 

[Jurasicpilot]

ATI, ABX, CCI are going to be whip sawed to death. I forget who posted it before but it really is a wet dream for management. I watch ATI simply for the fact I believe they will set a new all time record for negotiations. You guys are probably a long long way from being released.

I dont think its safe to be on the bottom of the list over there though. I know your combi operation is stumbling and just took another blow recently. ATI has been low balling that for years with old 62's. I would think OMNI would be all over it, they have the certificate, logistics, aircraft already in place. Plus they already have ETOPs approval on the 75 and 6.

 

[l8fr82hub]

Does Omni have a combi 757?

 

[Jurasicpilot]

Nope, but they could get one going on pretty short notice with a 200ER. Deeper pockets too. I would imagine others are starting to circle too.

Cant say for sure (and wouldnt post on here regardless) but I think its been offered. I heard ATI claimed they could put a 75 combi together as well.

I wont knock your company but ATI has been half @ssing that operation for a while and that seems to be the mentality over there. Jim's IOU's are about to run out. Where did all of the -72's go? I thought you guys were going to modernize your combi fleet.

 

[l8fr82hub]

I wont knock your company but ATI has been half @ssing that operation for a while and that seems to be the mentality over there.

No argument there!

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

ATI, ABX, CCI are going to be whip sawed to death. I forget who posted it before but it really is a wet dream for management.

Maybe, maybe not. Over the last 3 years, the air-cargo industry has seen some pretty notable successes by pilot-labor groups, and at least one collossal failure. The single common denominator seems to be unity...those groups that have demonstrated it have faired far better than those that have not.

If all pilots flying under the ATSG banner are able to hang together, they'll come out of this OK. If not, there's always Home Depot.

 

[nitefr8dog]

Maybe, maybe not. Over the last 3 years, the air-cargo industry has seen some pretty notable successes by pilot-labor groups, and at least one collossal failure. The single common denominator seems to be unity...those groups that have demonstrated it have faired far better than those that have not.

If all pilots flying under the ATSG banner are able to hang together, they'll come out of this OK. If not, there's always Home Depot.

Thank you, that was very enlightening!

 

[727Niteflyer]

rumor has it Cappy is getting 76's

 

[l8fr82hub]

rumor has it Cappy is getting 76's

Would that be the rumor that was started in the APC forums?

 

[nitefr8dog]

rumor has it Cappy is getting 76's

Not really that big of stretch, the leasing co that is part of ATSG is supposed to have 5 or 6 767's of which two are flying at ATI. With Cappy at basically scab wages it would stand to reason that they would get more aircraft.

 

[nitefr8dog]

rumor has it Cappy is getting 76's

727Niteflyer, what does the possibility of Cappy getting 76's have to do with the thread topic of ATI hiring?

 

[727Niteflyer]

nothing except as I was reading different posts, their was talk of whipsawing, and pitting us against each other, and how its managments dream, blah blah blah. Those didnt have anything to do with ATI hiring. Just thought Id throw it out since it is a rumor out of the office.

Hete just fired all of our managment, we now have a guy from ATSG thats president, and bunch of ABX peeps coming in. That doesnt have anything to do with this thread either.

 

[abxnightrider]

Dont throw stones at Cappy

Look what we at ABX did we voted on concessionary wages, we gave up what 80 dollars on hour on captains, all of us are pilots, its the profession that is heading down hill, Look at the Astar guys there down to 8 planes, we lost 90+ airframes , we could be next who knows and may want a job at a less tier airline.

 

[abxflyr1]

Hete just fired all of our managment, we now have a guy from ATSG thats president, and bunch of ABX peeps coming in. That doesnt have anything to do with this thread either.

Just curious as to what is a 'bunch' of people coming over to CCI and in which jobs? I only know of one (1) person who is coming from the C/P position at ABX to the V/P Ops at CCI. I would like to know if there are in fact more and in what position.

As another note to this thread....I have confirmed that there are no ABX'er who have transistioned to ATI as of yet. There was a rumor (imagine that) of 6, that started on here or was at least discussed. This is false.

 

[Fly Astar Jets]

Look what we at ABX did we voted on concessionary wages, we gave up what 80 dollars on hour on captains, all of us are pilots, its the profession that is heading down hill, Look at the Astar guys there down to 8 planes, we lost 90+ airframes , we could be next who knows and may want a job at a less tier airline.

You may not post much, but when you do it's usually measured and reasonable. No grenades. Just common sense and straight talk. Thank You.

Here's to you abxnightrider:beer:
FAJ

 

[727Niteflyer]

well of course the president was former abx, vp ops, DO, I think our head of maint control is abx and we are bringing in a head of the ops center which I think is abx

 

[vtwo]

well of course the president was former abx, vp ops, DO, I think our head of maint control is abx and we are bringing in a head of the ops center which I think is abx

Names Man Names. now Spill it.

 

[nitefr8dog]

Look what we at ABX did we voted on concessionary wages, we gave up what 80 dollars on hour on captains, all of us are pilots, its the profession that is heading down hill, Look at the Astar guys there down to 8 planes, we lost 90+ airframes , we could be next who knows and may want a job at a less tier airline.

B.S.! ABX'S old contract was when Airborne Express was in business and we had our own product to move. We are now a ACMI carrier... and although no one likes a pay cut unless you have your head in the sand it was going to happen! Being the highest paid ACMI carrier (operating more that eight airplanes) is still better than most of the major pax carriers.

 

[l8fr82hub]

Heard on the ABX 1224 hotline ATI was hiring 12 with preferential to furloughed ABX pilots with a 2 year lock. I wonder if anyone will bite?

apparently not

 

[nitefr8dog]

apparently not

Apparently so! I have talked to 5 guys that are going, I bet they will get 12 easy.