ATA Scheduled Service Changes

[HalinTexas]

Delta hasn't tried very hard in my book, but that's their decision. Song was their decision, too, and you see how that's worked out.

It's probably too late to do much about it now, except don't lose any more market share, match fares, like AMR is doing to you in DFW. Advertise in the same markets, the same way Airtran does, but mention DAL international connections and provide better incentives to fly DAL vs. "TyWebbTran" at the same fares. There's lots of things they could have done, but they, like most legacy carriers, try to be all things to all people.

Since you've only been there 3 years, what do you know? Did you know that Valujet tried to buy American Trans Air about 8 years ago after the crash for about 27/share? Stan Pace was running the show, and subsquently asked to leave, golden parachute in tact. George could have walked away with a bunch of money.

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[Ty Webb]

It's tribal knowledge that we had talked with ATA, AWA, Frontier and others over the years, but I never heard it spelled out quite like that.

If Alaska wants to buy us, I'll gladly sell 'em my shares and options . . .

Waddaya think, FLX757?

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

Personally, I believe that SWA will pull a DAL/PanAm like deal.

My reasoned argument... facts as I see them:

SWA wanted the gates at MDW (duh)
SWA hates bad press (not that they ever seem to get any)
SWA could care less about IND (except for service on SWA metal)
SWA has not been particularly nice to the previous outfits they bought
and finally, they wanted to deny FL a easy target.

I just don't see them code sharing long term, and all the nonsense that goes along with it...joint ticketing, bag interchange and trying to provide customer service on ANOTHER airline is always something they have avoided like the plauge in the past, and has been, in some measure, responsible for their success.

ATA is the anti-SWA. Multiple fleets, regional codeshare, trying to hub instead of focus.

Personally, and as much as it pains me to say it, I think that SWA will funnel just enough cash to keep ATA afloat for a few months. Just enough time for the bad press to be easily contained and allow them to consolidate what they want to pluck out. Let ATA retreat into IND to compete with plenty of competition. String it out far enough so that SWA has settled into their gates at MDW (what they REALLY wanted) and just pull the plug.

There will be some grumbling in IND. No one will care in MDW. Chances are it will miss the national news entirely. I'm sure they can spin it to make NWA look like the bad guy for invading IND, and SWA gets away clean.

Nu

 

[atafan]

Ty,

I'm so sick of watching all the vultures fight over the ATA carcas, you guys make me sick and I'm embarassed to even be in your same business. You may be at the bottom looking up some day, go ahead have fun kicking us now, we'll see who has the last laugh.

Plus now, I get to watch your company screw over all those ATA dudes, and hear them whine about SWA instead of AirTran.

I know a lot of excellent AirTran pilots but you are not one.

FU

You are a major Farking A-Hole.

 

[1800 RVR]

What the fu*k?!?

Plus now, I get to watch your company screw over all those ATA dudes, and hear them whine about SWA instead of AirTran.

You know, Ty, I have thought some people may have been tough on you some times. But, this is absolutely the most ignorant thing I have ever read! You have become such an ignorant, self-serving, and loathesome individual with this quote. God forbid you be in this position somewhere down the road! I hope you enjoy your left seat - pray that it lasts!

I can't believe that you want ATA folks to be screwed over - you represent AirTran with dignity, humility, and grace - NOT!

 

[CaptSeth]

I just pissed my pants.

 

[race#53]

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Free the avitars;

My wife thought i was on a porno site before the avitars were banned.....

Now she is really mad after she realized i was looking at more aviation
stuff!!!

 

[HPaul3]

Free the avitars;

My wife thought i was on a porno site before the avitars were banned.....

Now she is really mad after she realized i was looking at more aviation
stuff!!!

Now that's funny, Race. And I can relate re: the wife. Good night!

 

[SWA/CA]

bump! time flies

 

[tzskipper]

bump! time flies

Three years next month.

With all due respect, it has taken a lot of families a lot of time to start over, both from a career standpoint and a financial standpoint. Many from an emotional standpoint.

Just be happy with the growth your company obtained through the transaction, show some humility and get on with your life. The rest of us have.

S

 

[dicko]

Three years next month.

With all due respect, it has taken a lot of families a lot of time to start over, both from a career standpoint and a financial standpoint. Many from an emotional standpoint.

Just be happy with the growth your company obtained through the transaction, show some humility and get on with your life. The rest of us have.

S

I've flown with a lot of ex ATA guys at AirTran. They're a great bunch.

I particularly enjoy the stories from the L1011 International ops. Cool airplane and it sounds like they knew how to enjoy themselves.

How many were hired by SWA ?

 

[Bob Dylan]

WTF. Ty Webb. Just wow!

Good luck with this guy SWA!

 

[jonjuan]

I've flown with a lot of ex ATA guys at AirTran. They're a great bunch.

I particularly enjoy the stories from the L1011 International ops. Cool airplane and it sounds like they knew how to enjoy themselves.

How many were hired by SWA ?

Interesting....wonder how many ATAers who were picked up by SWA will be SLIed behind those at AT who weren't.

 

[tzskipper]

I've flown with a lot of ex ATA guys at AirTran. They're a great bunch.

I particularly enjoy the stories from the L1011 International ops. Cool airplane and it sounds like they knew how to enjoy themselves.

How many were hired by SWA ?

I seem to recall that less than 10 were hired by SWA as part of the "preferential" type interview offered as a result of the transaction. More were hired after the window closed.

S

 

[dicko]

I seem to recall that less than 10 were hired by SWA as part of the "preferential" type interview offered as a result of the transaction. More were hired after the window closed.

S

That doesn't surprise me at all. I heard 2 or 3 from ATA guys.