Asa Ta!

[PCL_128]

How do the CRJ-700 rates compare to Horizon's? How about leap frogging their pay rates.

With the Bush NMB, that's just about impossible. You'll simply never get a release if you're demanding those rates. You'd have to wait around for a new administration.

 

[Palerider957]

With the Bush NMB, that's just about impossible. You'll simply never get a release if you're demanding those rates. You'd have to wait around for a new administration.

I'm sure Hilary is very sympathetic to whiney airline pilots

Stop looking to the government to care for ALL of your needs. If you want a new contract MAKE THEM GIVE IT TO YOU!

It's about time ASA pilots are pi$$ed off enough to force management to the table.

 

[PCL_128]

I'm sure Hilary is very sympathetic to whiney airline pilots

No, the Hilldabeast is a cu*^. She will do nothing to help us. Obama, Edwards, or Biden would be excellent for us, however. Not because they care about us, but because they get tons of money by pandering to organized labor. You've gotta learn how to play the game to get what you want.

Stop looking to the government to care for ALL of your needs. If you want a new contract MAKE THEM GIVE IT TO YOU!

That's a nice bumper sticker, but it means nothing in the real world. If you can't get a release, you have no leverage. This isn't about the government taking care of all of your needs. This is about the government abiding by their own laws and processes in the RLA. The Bush administration thinks that it's ok to ignore the intent of the law, and they've appointed members to the NMB that will stick up for their buddies in corporate America. We need a President that will appoint objective members to the NMB that will adhere to the intent of the RLA.

 

[DoinTime]

Stop looking to the government to care for ALL of your needs. If you want a new contract MAKE THEM GIVE IT TO YOU!

Thats one of the most uninformed comments I have ever seen here, and that is saying something.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Thank you to the CNC and all the other ALPA volunteers for all their hard work over the years.

Also, kudos to the ASA pilot group for actually having on a college football game in the C Lounge today. I'm not a big fan of LSU or Tulane, but it sure as hell beat watching Little House on the Prairie again.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

We are passed the point of release. We have a TA. It is time to vote now. Get over all the other sh1t that goes along with it. Vote! That is the name of the game now.

Dick Gozinya

 

[Long Time Gone]

Plan on around 40% to ol' Uncle Sam since it's a "bonus!"

Hell, my wife's severance package from her former employer when her office was closed was taxed at 40%. Some bonus.

 

[FlyWolf]

5 years negotiating? how that can be legal?

 

[PCL_128]

5 years negotiating? how that can be legal?

Two words: George Dubya

 

[Crash Pad]

Bush doesn't know who ASA is you idiot.

 

[PCL_128]

Bush doesn't know who ASA is you idiot.

No, but the anti-labor scumbags that he appointed to the NMB certainly do.

Keep your head in the sand about how politics affects your career if you'd like, though.

 

[Crash Pad]

I am plenty aware of how they affect me, stick to the DC-9, the B-717 might be a little too advanced for you.

 

[PCL_128]

I am plenty aware of how they affect me, stick to the DC-9, the B-717 might be a little too advanced for you.

I get the distinct impression that lace-up shoes might be a little too complex for you.

 

[Jmoney]

Wow

Don't forget about our pilots too!! All a collective effort in not giving up.




Putting this down here as not to hijack the thread...
Yes he did get benched. Carson Palmer didn't have a stellar start either, look at what he's doing. Matt is arguably the best COLLEGE FOOTBALL QB in the history of the sport. He'll come along, you can't jump into the NFL and expect to be GREAT. Brett Favre took awhile to develop, Matt will too. He needs a team built around him and it will come along. The tougher the competition, the better Matt does.

Trojan

Wow-

I guess I clicked on the "regional football" thread. Who the hell else cares about USC?

-Not me......

P.S.-All the forgoing statements also apply to my left nut.

 

[Jmoney]

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[Crash Pad]

Hey my friend, I'm not starting a pi**ing contest with you, but your rhetorts are pretty ridiculous. Just take some time to read over the past two pages what you are saying.

 

[PCL_128]

Hey my friend, I'm not starting a pi**ing contest with you, but your rhetorts are pretty ridiculous. Just take some time to read over the past two pages what you are saying.

I'm well aware of what I'm saying. Many pilots don't want to accept that the President and his party are largely to blame for the problems we face in this profession. Most pilots are staunch conservatives, so they have a very hard time admitting that the Republican party is the cause of their labor woes. I know; I was the same way for years. After spending years doing ALPA work and seeing how this process really works, it has become abundantly clear to me just how heavily the system has been weighted against us by the Bush administration. It's not that he has anything against a certain pilot group, or even against a certain profession; he's simply extremely pro-management, and he believes that a strong labor movement is detrimental to business. Because of that, he has stacked the deck against us. His NMB is the reason that you've been in negotiations for 5 years, and it's the reason that we at AirTran are in our 3rd year, the reason that PCL has been in negotiations for 3 years, and so on. As long as Bush and people like him are in office, we will never have the leverage to make real progress in this profession. It all comes back to politics.

 

[Crash Pad]

I'm not sticking up for this president in any regard, and last time I checked this industry was going into the swirly bowl before he got into office. By the way, didn't your pilot group kick out your head union reps because they were not looking out for your best interests?

 

[PCL_128]

I'm not sticking up for this president in any regard, and last time I checked this industry was going into the swirly bowl before he got into office.

Absolutely. The financial problems of the airlines are their own doing. The ensuing problems that labor has faced as a result of management trying to make us shoulder all of the burden have been a direct result of this President's anti-labor mentality, however.

By the way, didn't your pilot group kick out your head union reps because they were not looking out for your best interests?

Yep. How does that apply? I'm missing your point.

 

[Crash Pad]

Quit blaming everything on national politics when discrepencies are on a much more smalller level.