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Funny thing is that I now know why those 757 and 767 taxi so slow.
Seems that if we go over 10 kts in a turn we will knock off the front wheels :)
 
Now just tell us why the 75/6 pilots always blind us with the taxi lights, day or night!


The taxi lights are an indication to everyone (airplanes tugs etc...) that the aircraft is....or is about to be in motion. It lets everyone know day and night that the airplane is moving. And I think ASA is about the only airline that doesn't turn on the taxi lights when the airplane is taxiing. Thats like having your engines running without a beacon on. Every 121 carrier I know of turns on the taxi lights when taxiing.....except ASA.
 
The taxi lights are an indication to everyone (airplanes tugs etc...) that the aircraft is....or is about to be in motion. It lets everyone know day and night that the airplane is moving. And I think ASA is about the only airline that doesn't turn on the taxi lights when the airplane is taxiing. Thats like having your engines running without a beacon on. Every 121 carrier I know of turns on the taxi lights when taxiing.....except ASA.

Um, I know I do, and I know it's ASA procedure. Maybe you're confused as to the position of the taxi lights on the CRJ? They're not where you think they are.
 
The taxi lights are an indication to everyone (airplanes tugs etc...) that the aircraft is....or is about to be in motion. It lets everyone know day and night that the airplane is moving. And I think ASA is about the only airline that doesn't turn on the taxi lights when the airplane is taxiing. Thats like having your engines running without a beacon on. Every 121 carrier I know of turns on the taxi lights when taxiing.....except ASA.

I understand that concept, and actually do turn my lights on when taxiing. However, I (and I believe almost every other airline) exercise courtesy and common sense to turn it off when facing another aircraft. Apparently you guys manual and procedures override common sense.
 
so a question from an outsider..is everyone from the prop mafia getting shipped over to the jet...are they putting all the newhires in the prop until August then...sounds like a big CF to me

It is.

We have been told that the ATR is definitely going away this year. As of now, retirements will begin in July and are scheduled to be 2 per month until they are gone in December.

Most of the senior FOs have already bid to a jet and gotten the award, but have not been sent to class. Those bidding to the -200 have been told by Brian Morris not to expect a class before August. Those going to the -700 have been told to expect a class "sooner". A couple of captains have bid the -200 and gotten the award, but were told they "probably" won't get a class until July, but "maybe sooner". And according to the ATR training department (Jim and Woody) the last ATR upgrade has gone to class, and no more AT7 CA or FO positions will be awarded.

From what I've heard, most of the line holding captains plan to ride it to the ground.
 
It is.

We have been told that the ATR is definitely going away this year. As of now, retirements will begin in July and are scheduled to be 2 per month until they are gone in December.

Most of the senior FOs have already bid to a jet and gotten the award, but have not been sent to class. Those bidding to the -200 have been told by Brian Morris not to expect a class before August. Those going to the -700 have been told to expect a class "sooner". A couple of captains have bid the -200 and gotten the award, but were told they "probably" won't get a class until July, but "maybe sooner". And according to the ATR training department (Jim and Woody) the last ATR upgrade has gone to class, and no more AT7 CA or FO positions will be awarded.

From what I've heard, most of the line holding captains plan to ride it to the ground.


The last statement kind of reminds me of that real old movie, "Dr. Zhivago," where that old cowboy hops on that nuclear bomb in the bomb bay of the B-52, cowboy hat, boots, and all, and rides the bomb to the ground! YEEEEEHaaaaaaaa!
 
I understand that concept, and actually do turn my lights on when taxiing. However, I (and I believe almost every other airline) exercise courtesy and common sense to turn it off when facing another aircraft. Apparently you guys manual and procedures override common sense.








I totally agree with ya, however it seems that less and less out there seem to understand this little bit of "common courtesy"! Used to be a rare exception to have your night vision ruined by a fellow professional, now it's occurring more and more...
 
Im trying to ride the ATR to the ground, hoping there's no room for me in class for a while, and I get a month of paid vacation. Heard it happened when the Brasilia went away...
 
Im trying to ride the ATR to the ground, hoping there's no room for me in class for a while, and I get a month of paid vacation. Heard it happened when the Brasilia went away...


There are several FOs who have the same idea.

One would think that some sort of training schedule would have been/should have been created already. Seems like putting 100 folks through jet training at once would impact hiring plans.
 
Im trying to ride the ATR to the ground, hoping there's no room for me in class for a while, and I get a month of paid vacation. Heard it happened when the Brasilia went away...

Once you get on reserve, it's pretty much paid vacation.
 
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Im trying to ride the ATR to the ground, hoping there's no room for me in class for a while, and I get a month of paid vacation. Heard it happened when the Brasilia went away...

You're so junior on the airplane I really don't think it's going to make a difference. It's also interesting to see you on the bid list for the 50. Trying real hard, eh? No, not everyone on the Brasilia got a month off. It all depends on how the training cycles go. They will need to keep several pilots staffed to the airplane, so if you want to ride this til the end, you should hope no one above you wants to, and maybe pull that bid out.
 
Im trying to ride the ATR to the ground, hoping there's no room for me in class for a while, and I get a month of paid vacation. Heard it happened when the Brasilia went away...

I was here for the Brasilia. It wasn't like that except for a few people. And getting short called on reserve when you're #5 on the airplane to fly it to Hot Spring, AR, then take a cab to Texarkana, then fly to ATL via TXK-DFW-ATL was no picnic.

As a good friend of mine says "you don't want to be a Mahican".
 

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