ASA slowing down?

[79%N1]

No, I am talking about the ASA contract. It says that Skywest may transfer a certain amount of aircraft every 12 months without penalty. This clause enables them to 'retire and replace' ASA aircraft with Skywest aircraft.

 

[777forever]

Didn't say they are out to 'shrink' ASA. I said, Skywest will take any growth opportunities, etc. for their own side before it goes to ASA.....even in ATL. We have never, ever seen one thing to show otherwise. (See SLC, ATL 900's, etc)

And, even if Delta wants 50's exchanged for 900's, Skywest has contractual language in place to tranfer that flying to their side.......

Everybody knows that SLC and LAX were never meant to be. No maintenance support, TDYing crews out there, it was a mess. The 900s SKW has in ATL are our 900s. We had everything set in place to get it except the contract. So it went to SKW

 

[79%N1]

It doesn't matter why, just that it is! Why haven't things changed if things are so rosey at ASA? Have you noticed how much flying we have been losing each month, and we are losing more for April. Wait to see how far you move back when the ATR's leave and Pinnacle replaces them.

 

[777forever]

It doesn't matter why, just that it is! Why haven't things changed if things are so rosey at ASA? Have you noticed how much flying we have been losing each month, and we are losing more for April. Wait to see how far you move back when the ATR's leave and Pinnacle replaces them.

Hehe, Pinnacle replaces them. Thats a good one. Pinnacle not replacing anything. ASA owns 80% of DCI flying out of ATL. If anybody is doing replacing it would be Skywest. Every DCI carrier has been losing flying. The reduction was announced a while ago. Anyways look like we're on different sides of the spectrum and only time will tell who's right.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Where are John and Joe? They know this stuff and should be getting the word out, as should your MEC.

....my crystal ball is starting to flash DANGER....$103 a barrel oil and an economy that is falling fast....things aren't looking good....The music is about to stop again and everyone isn't going to have a seat....

 

[Jmoney]

Dude.....

....my crystal ball is starting to flash DANGER....$103 a barrel oil and an economy that is falling fast....things aren't looking good....The music is about to stop again and everyone isn't going to have a seat....

Let's be serious:

-Your crystal ball is ALWAYS flashing "DANGER" "DOOM" "GLOOM" OR "END OF DAYS" you are always predicting woe and dread-regardless of the situation or the circumstances. RJDC kinda brings it out in a guy-don't it?

I was merely trying to address PBS and what a tremednous suckhole it is. Maybe not the end of the world-maybe so-at any rate, my crystal ball is still flashing "DON'T LIVE IN A TRAILER-DOWN BY THE RIVER!"

-Just Damn....

 

[white knuckle]

Mixed messages

Rambling thoughts about the company and this months schedules.

The company is attempting to hire 40 a month according to recruiters, however there were less lines this month and less block to the published lines (IMHO, at least on the CRJ).

The ATRs are going away, or at least management has advised; why then is the company fat on pilots. Do you think the reason ASA is fat on pilots is due to new aircraft coming soon or just getting ready for the summer schedule?

But if the company is fat on pilots why the premium pay? Just a scheduling mistake that needed fixing?

Express Jet and Skywest have stopped hiring until May, or so I've heard, so this could be a downturn for the next couple of months for all regionals and nationals and hopefully things will pick back up with summer flying.

Could be the immediate affects of age 65 making its way to the regionals?

Things appeared to be getting better at ASA over the past year (especially since the contract was signed) but now things appear to be going in reverse. I hope things revert back in a positive direction soon. I think many pilots were excited to be at ASA with the new contract until this month, there are signs things are now going backward. I hope not.

No matter what happens, it sure beats sitting behind a desk!

 

[Tarzan]

ASA will have Pinnacle 900's by the end of the year. Those pilots will also come with the airframes and be stapled to the ASA list.

 

[Crash Pad]

Wow four pages deep on an ASA thread of this nature and no talk of merger.

 

[79%N1]

ASA will have Pinnacle 900's by the end of the year. Those pilots will also come with the airframes and be stapled to the ASA list.

Pinnacle leases their own aircraft, not Delta, so I'm sure they will not just hand them over to ASA. They also have like a 15 or 20 year contract with Delta, with options on more 900's. I doubt what you say is true.

 

[Texx]

From what I've been told ASA actually already has a -900 program. In fact we had it before Skywest. Very easy to add the airplanes to our fleet, no sim, just one day of differences and mx is very similar to the -700 with only small differences (engines, additional fwd cargo door). We could bring in -900's with little effort.

Next revision to the FA manual will have 900 info.

 

[Texx]

Rambling thoughts about the company and this months schedules.

The company is attempting to hire 40 a month according to recruiters, 1. however there were less lines this month and less block to the published lines (IMHO, at least on the CRJ).

The ATRs are going away, or at least management has advised; 2. why then is the company fat on pilots. Do you think the reason ASA is fat on pilots is due to new aircraft coming soon or just getting ready for the summer schedule?

But if the company is fat on pilots why the premium pay? Just a scheduling mistake that needed fixing?

Express Jet and Skywest have stopped hiring until May, or so I've heard, so this could be a downturn for the next couple of months for all regionals and nationals and hopefully things will pick back up with summer flying.

Could be the immediate affects of age 65 making its way to the regionals?

Things appeared to be getting better at ASA over the past year (especially since the contract was signed) but now things appear to be going in reverse. I hope things revert back in a positive direction soon. I think many pilots were excited to be at ASA with the new contract until this month, there are signs things are now going backward. I hope not.

No matter what happens, it sure beats sitting behind a desk!

1. Correct, except that for April there will be more CR7 and ATR flying and slightly less on the 50.

2. I wouldn't say we are FAT. Extentions and JM on the 50 in March. SH wanted BD and BS to fly this week. BS did but BD didn't, was in recurrent. Even SH was scheduled to fly.

I wouldn'y say "backwards". It's the pains of new management in place. New people getting their feet wet. The new contract, getting a handle on it.

 

[Texx]

Pinnacle leases their own aircraft, not Delta, so I'm sure they will not just hand them over to ASA. They also have like a 15 or 20 year contract with Delta, with options on more 900's. I doubt what you say is true.

A contract means nothing. Just ask George and John. If things are not meeting the specifics of that contract, i.e. performance, then the contract can be voided.

Look at Pinnicale's performance for DAL. 5 airframes and their performance is terrible. In fact, in the morning meetings with DAL, ASA is currently being used as a reference on ATL performance.

Don't think that a contract with DAL is forever.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Any fleet of 5 aircraft would result in terrible performance. You need spares and the ability to re-route, as well as manage maintenance.

SkyWest is only set to grow two CRj200s for MidWest this year.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

ASA doesn't keep spare parts or airplanes. These machines are primo!! Didn't you know that?

 

[Texx]

And you've been at ASA for how long?

Looks like about 4 months. hehehe

 

[Flybywire44]

I thought Pinnacle had a shorter contract...

 

[Tarzan]

Pinnacle leases their own aircraft, not Delta, so I'm sure they will not just hand them over to ASA. They also have like a 15 or 20 year contract with Delta, with options on more 900's. I doubt what you say is true.

Dang Junior,
Go back and read that last sentence.

 

[79%N1]

Dang Junior,
Go back and read that last sentence.

First off, who are you calling Junior? I am certain I am no "Junior", but if you want to start throwing insults, I'm certain I am game to play along. I am willing to bet I have been at all this quite a long time.

Secondly, you claimed ASA will be handed Pinnacles 900's, and I said that I doubt what you said is true. What part of that sentence stresses you out so?

Later Pops.....

 

[CFI2766]

ASA will have Pinnacle 900's by the end of the year. Those pilots will also come with the airframes and be stapled to the ASA list.

Highly doubtul. Highly.

If so, they will be a two, or even three, for one swap, as in for every two ATRs that leave, one 900 might appear.

I highly doubt that there will be any stapling to the bottom of anyone's list.

Nah, it does seem that we are fat with airplanes, but not more than necessary to fill the anticipated summer schedule. I just doubt that the company would carry 'extra' pilots in anticipation of new aircraft. (If there were solid reasons to expect new aircraft, I think we would have heard about it already.)