ASA: Ready reserve not assigned via the bucket?

[73belair]

Is this the case? How do they get away with that?

 

[av8rbama]

Is this the case? How do they get away with that?

If you would read your contract you would know.

13.O.7.e

 

[McNugent]

oh snap!

 

[OCP]

I know you were just trying to be an a$$ about it, but thanks for pointing it out for everyone. I don't know how in the world anyone could have ever missed that huge part of the contract. Hope that teaches you a lesson 73!

 

[SLUF4]

yeah that's what is bad..they basically use it to break up your 5 and 6 day on call periods it seems. and I asked how they go about assigning that and was told its just "random"

 

[Medeco]

How about some cheese with the whine?

Guys, just one more reason to know your contract.

Bottom line, everything is worth a price and or CNC decided they would agree to this in return for something else. Like Long call with 12hr call out and no option for ready reserve even after being converted to short call.

Medeco

 

[crjskipper]

nothing better than listening to ready reserves complain about watching tv for 8 hours. miraculously i havnt been extended in a 6 months and i imagine having ready reserves is a reason for that. my reserve fo last week compained about getting 2 days of rr in august, he only worked 8 days.

seriously, who really cares. you knew you'd be on reserve, you bid the plane or chose to work for an airline. you can only have 6 days of rr per month and it keeps line guys from getting hosed. are you seriously gonna bitch cause you were 3 in the bucket and they skipped 2. get over yourself.

 

[sweptback]

nothing better than listening to ready reserves complain about watching tv for 8 hours. miraculously i havnt been extended in a 6 months and i imagine having ready reserves is a reason for that. my reserve fo last week compained about getting 2 days of rr in august, he only worked 8 days.

seriously, who really cares. you knew you'd be on reserve, you bid the plane or chose to work for an airline. you can only have 6 days of rr per month and it keeps line guys from getting hosed. are you seriously gonna bitch cause you were 3 in the bucket and they skipped 2. get over yourself.

While the ready reserve could have been implemented better, the same people bitching now will be loving it when they're lineholders and don't get extended like we used to under the old contract.

 

[OCP]

nothing better than listening to ready reserves complain about watching tv for 8 hours. miraculously i havnt been extended in a 6 months and i imagine having ready reserves is a reason for that. my reserve fo last week compained about getting 2 days of rr in august, he only worked 8 days.

seriously, who really cares. you knew you'd be on reserve, you bid the plane or chose to work for an airline. you can only have 6 days of rr per month and it keeps line guys from getting hosed. are you seriously gonna bitch cause you were 3 in the bucket and they skipped 2. get over yourself.

Sounds like a classic 10 year or so guy. What about a 14??? number?

 

[av8rbama]

I know you were just trying to be an a$$ about it, but thanks for pointing it out for everyone. I don't know how in the world anyone could have ever missed that huge part of the contract. Hope that teaches you a lesson 73!

Yeah, I was trying to be an a$$ about it. I'm sick of hearing guys in ops and the lounge btch about simple stuff in the contract.

the RR section is about a page long. It took me all of 20 seconds to re-read it before the first time I had RR to keep from getting scrwd.

 

[73belair]

I'm not bitching. I just don't get how our whole lives are based on seniority. And then like our old reserve system, they get to just pick at random someone who gets to take them selves to ATL and maybe sit for 8 hrs and then make their way home. "The devil is in the details" and all. I'll just have to suck it up, but I hope next time around there is a change.

 

[av8rbama]

I just don't get how our whole lives are based on seniority.

Did you not realize this before you came to work at an airline?

 

[centralpilot]

Did you not realize this before you came to work at an airline?

I think he punctuated his post poorly. I believe his point is that if seniority is everything in this career, why is ready reserve not assigned on a seniority basis? The answer, as previously mentioned, is that the CBA allows them to.

 

[73belair]

Did you not realize this before you came to work at an airline?

You're a McCain fan aren't you?

 

[73belair]

I think he punctuated his post poorly. I believe his point is that if seniority is everything in this career, why is ready reserve not assigned on a seniority basis? The answer, as previously mentioned, is that the CBA allows them to.

Correct... I missed a "," sorry.

 

[cessnamann]

Almost every other regional airline is furloughing, and you’re complaining about sitting ready reserve?

 

[Max Q]

Almost every other regional airline is furloughing, and you’re complaining about sitting ready reserve?

Excellent first post.

-Brett

 

[Medeco]

Almost every other regional airline is furloughing, and you’re complaining about sitting ready reserve?

excellent point and post. It is real easy to get caught up in all the complaining we pilots do around the crew rooms, etc.

Keep things in perspective.

And like I said earlier, if you want it changed in the next contract, what are you willing to give the company, cause they see a price on it.

Medeco

 

[PooPooPants]

Almost every other regional airline is furloughing, and you’re complaining about sitting ready reserve?

Whereas I see your point and you are correct remember we are pilots and it's our nature to complain. Take that away from us and the job becomes boring. Now as for ready reserve, yes it does suck. Not because I have to come to work but because I have to sit around for 8 hours looking for something productive to do. So next time you have to sit RR try this: Go downstairs and start walking from E to T. Every pass is about 1 mile and you'll probably be asked for help about 5 times in each pass. Whereas before it would be annoying, now take the time and help people. You have nothing else to do and it kills a lot of time. It's great karma and the exercise you get from walking won't hurt you either. Do it four times and you just passed 2 or three hours and walked 4 miles. Then go grab a bite to eat in the E concourse and listen to that dude on the piano and people watch, some of those foreign girls are amazing. By this time half of your day is over. Go back to the lounge look through your OM/FOM, watch a little TV and it's almost over. It's a lot better once you accept the fact that you're on reserve.

Now all that said, has anyone else been getting called on RR to taxi planes from D-North to the terminal? I don't mind because it kills time but I think the MX personal is getting upset...i had one guy tell me it's taking away from their overtime.

 

[SLUF4]

Yeah; I have taxied a ton of planes back and forth. I did about 5 in one day a few months ago. I didn't mind so much as it passed the time, but those planes were pretty hot. I was told that a tug was broken.