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I'll settle for jurists who don't automatically assume guilt just because a persecutor decided to bring charges...
 
shamrock said:
I'll settle for jurists who don't automatically assume guilt just because a persecutor decided to bring charges...
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Even been on a jury in GA? Unfortunately, many people actually think like him. "If they investigated and brought charges, he MUST be guilty, because innocent people don't get arrested"! FRY THE BASTARD!!!
 
BOX OFFICE said:
Even been on a jury in GA? Unfortunately, many people actually think like him. "If they investigated and brought charges, he MUST be guilty, because innocent people don't get arrested"! FRY THE BASTARD!!!
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You are missing the larger point. Somehow, this does not surprise me...
 
sunlitpath said:
You would'nt need to "burn any challenges", whatever that means. During jury selection, objections to a particular juror by either side routinely result in the exclusion of that juror.. Especially in murder cases.
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No way! Seriously? :rolleyes:

I assumed that someone with such an intimate knowledge of the criminal judicial system would likely be familiar with the concept of "peremptory challenges" but then again you know what happens when you assume...

Here's your sign... And a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peremptory_challenge
 
shamrock said:
No way! Seriously? :rolleyes:

I assumed that someone with such an intimate knowledge of the criminal judicial system would likely be familiar with the concept of "peremptory challenges" but then again you know what happens when you assume...

Here's your sign... And a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peremptory_challenge
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Never heard of it. Thanks for the reference. I guess you would need to burn one; just like your friend who allegedly burned that man to death while he slept...
 
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DA's don't really pursue cases the office can't win. They have to demonstrate a high conviction rate. Most are SO overloaded they don't have time to screw with any cases where there won't be a plea bargain, or the outcome is questionable.

Innocent until proven guilty.

But then again, my expertise IS in thoracic surgery.
 
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COOPERVANE said:
DA's don't really pursue cases the office can't win. They have to demonstrate a high conviction rate. Most are SO overloaded they don't have time to screw with any cases where there won't be a plea bargain, or the outcome is questionable.

Innocent until proven guilty.

But then again, my expertise IS in thoracic surgery.
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That's really the point. All kidding aside, if I were on the jury, I would listen to the evidence to determine a verdict. My point is that probability is not on the defendant's side. Stating this fact does not mean he is declared guilty.
 
sunlitpath said:
That's really the point. All kidding aside, if I were on the jury, I would listen to the evidence to determine a verdict. My point is that probability is not on the defendant's side. Stating this fact does not mean he is declared guilty.
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I agree with you. The first task a GOOD lawyer performs is to advise the jury that just because you are here does not mean the accused is probably guilty. Listen to the facts and make your own determination.
 
shamrock said:
No way! Seriously? :rolleyes:

I assumed that someone with such an intimate knowledge of the criminal judicial system would likely be familiar with the concept of "peremptory challenges" but then again you know what happens when you assume...

Here's your sign... And a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peremptory_challenge
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Actually, upon further review, I am familiar with the concept of peremptory challenges, because that's precisely what I described. I was just unfamiliar with the legal term. I guess I do have an intimate knowledge of the criminal justice system. Therefore, your assumptions are well founded. Don't beat yourself up. We all make mistakes.
 
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sunlitpath said:
Actually, upon further review, I am familiar with the concept of peremptory challenges, because that's precisely what I described. I was just unfamiliar with the legal term. I guess I do have an intimate knowledge of the criminal justice system. Therefore, your assumptions are well founded. Don't beat yourself up. We all make mistakes.
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Hey, go and clean out your garage or something! ;-)
 
In The Gulag Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn describes the process of arrest, investigation, interrogation and trial under Stalin. Those very few who did not confess to make the interrogation stop and for whom there was insufficient evidence to convict them of the crime for which they were arrested were found guilty of the crime of being guilty. The sentence for being guilty was 8 years.
 
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