ASA MEC update.

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One contract also means single list. If one side (or the other) is to be downsized, the pilots on the other half will potentially be slaughtered on seniority.
 

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No, I've said I'd be willing to take Skywest book and their crappy PBS if it meant one list. This sentiment is not just mine. It's the reason management said shortly after the two MECs voted to send out the TA to vote that they are willing to give us Skywest book but not one list. They didn't just bring that up out of the blue.
Have you really looked into the SKYW work rules? You would be taking a major cut overall. And the one list with them. Look at how PNCL, Mesaba & Colgan list was handled. I think you would come up on the very short end of the stick on that one.
 

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Bye bye Nevets!!

Wow, I didn't know I made such an impression on you that you think of me when reading that post. Pretty sad though that you take pleasure in seeing others suffer. But to set you at ease, I can assure you that if this place closed down today, I'll land on my feet and be ok.

Have you really looked into the SKYW work rules? You would be taking a major cut overall. And the one list with them. Look at how PNCL, Mesaba & Colgan list was handled. I think you would come up on the very short end of the stick on that one.

Yes, it would be more of a concession than the TA we voted down. But I would compromise on that and take my chances with the arbitrator. This whipsaw within the holding company needs to end! I'm prepared to put my money where my mouth is because I'm true and honest to my convictions, even if it means a staple.
 
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So tired of this place. ASA was a good company back in the day. Now with our current state (LXJT pulling morale and revenue down), anyone with any foresight is actively working to get out of here as soon as possible - as they should. The downward slope is getting steeper...
 

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So tired of this place. ASA was a good company back in the day. Now with our current state (LXJT pulling morale and revenue down), anyone with any foresight is actively working to get out of here as soon as possible - as they should. The downward slope is getting steeper...

If you believe that the pilots have anything to do with revenue or losing money, then management should be commended for convincing you of it.
 
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If you believe that the pilots have anything to do with revenue or losing money, then management should be commended for convincing you of it.
Nevets, please just get on with your plan B....We don't want you guys here anymore....
 

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Seems to me that 83% agree with me.
Do not mistake the 83% as a vote as one group but as a rejection of what the Company wanted from each group individually.
 

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the reason I voted no is not because I agree with nevets. Its because all we heard was that there were going to very few, if any concessions and most would come from LXJT. Then that turd TA was riddled with concessions for Lasa while simultaneously subsidizing Lxjt. I am all for separate contracts. bring on the whipsaw. I am fine with that going forward.

and as far as our union and management goes. Please do not tell me anymore that DL/UA etc want to get rid of 50's while I watch them fly to the desert, only to return 3 weeks later to ATL with the Blue and white generic skywest on the tail right next to the 8XXAS tail number.
 

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Do not mistake the 83% as a vote as one group but as a rejection of what the Company wanted from each group individually.

Exactly, no one wants concessions and 83% agree with me!


Well said!!!

Don't you work for Skywest? I must have hit a nerve with you at some point. ;)

I was part of that 83% and I don't agree with you. We've had it and want a divorce.

Well then you would be wrong. The pilots are not responsible for the money losing CPAs that management negotiated. But you guys rather divorce yourselves from the pilots with the better contract and keep the management that created the problem.


the reason I voted no is not because I agree with nevets. Its because all we heard was that there were going to very few, if any concessions and most would come from LXJT. Then that turd TA was riddled with concessions for Lasa while simultaneously subsidizing Lxjt. I am all for separate contracts. bring on the whipsaw. I am fine with that going forward.

and as far as our union and management goes. Please do not tell me anymore that DL/UA etc want to get rid of 50's while I watch them fly to the desert, only to return 3 weeks later to ATL with the Blue and white generic skywest on the tail right next to the 8XXAS tail number.

Bring in the whipsaw and then you lament the whipsaw by bringing back your old aircraft that are now operated by non-union pilots with lower average compensation than you? You contradict yourself. Not to mention that you would vote for a concession for 2/3 of the pilots and lower the bar for the rest of the industry.

One List or NOTHING!
 
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Exactly, no one wants concessions and 83% agree with me!





Don't you work for Skywest? I must have hit a nerve with you at some point. ;)




Well then you would be wrong. The pilots are not responsible for the money losing CPAs that management negotiated. But you guys rather divorce yourselves from the pilots with the better contract and keep the management that created the problem.





Bring in the whipsaw and then you lament the whipsaw by bringing back your old aircraft that are now operated by non-union pilots with lower average compensation than you? You contradict yourself. Not to mention that you would vote for a concession for 2/3 of the pilots and lower the bar for the rest of the industry.

One List or NOTHING!
One list without you or suckit

I'm following the bear in the woods theory of survival. I don't have to out run the bear, I just need to out run you cpt netard
 
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Hey everyone, Nevets has it all figured out. All we need is one list and everything will be rainbows and unicorns... Never mind the fact that after 4 years the ASA and XJT MECs are still at each other's throats and still can't agree on bidding software... Just listen to Nevets and everything will be great...
 
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