ASA MEC update.

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The ASA MEC (Master Executive Council) and the XJT MEC convened a joint meeting this week to discuss open issues with the JCBA (Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement), as well as how to move forward in a manner that represents the best interests of both groups. On Wednesday, the Company presented the joint MECs a financial briefing and reiterated their desire to move negotiations as quickly as possible. During this presentation, the financial situation of the Company was described by the Company as being a direct result of many factors, such as not achieving many of the combined efficiencies within labor groups, the extreme weather impact in comparison to previous years, missed completion and on-time performance incentives, and challenges with various reimbursement rates from major partners to cover rising costs associated with network and regulatory change requirements. It was candidly observed by the ASA MEC that the majority of the factors listed by the Company as contributing to the poor financial and operational performance were directly attributable to the decision to acquire XJT Airlines. At the conclusion of the briefing, the meeting was adjourned to allow both groups to separate and discuss amongst themselves the information that was presented.

On Thursday morning, the joint meeting resumed with the voting members discussing numerous ideas, viewpoints and concerns important to both groups. At times the meeting contained very candid discussions with spirited interaction.

A majority of the conversation centered on PBS (Preferential Bidding Systems) and the discrepancies between the two vendors being discussed for the combined pilot group to use in the JCBA. The ASA representatives made every attempt to educate and inform the XJT representatives of the known pitfalls associated with the globalized PBS system known as SmartPref currently being advocated for by some members of the XJT MEC. Furthermore, the ASA representatives strived to show the XJT representatives the whipsaw that is being created by actively negotiating an unproven system and the attendant waste of negotiating capital and efforts.

During these discussions, the XJT representatives were queried as to why neither the ASA CNC (Contract Negotiating Committee) nor the ASA PWG (PBS Working Group) were consulted before XJT committee members approached the Company to negotiate for SmartPref outside of the JCBA, an action specifically prohibited by the TPA (Transition and Process Agreement). It became clear that it was an incorrect understanding of their representatives that the ASA CNC was made aware of this meeting. No explanation was provided to the ASA MEC as to why some XJT MEC and committee members engaged in a course of action that was clearly detrimental to the ASA pilot group as well as to the overall goal of negotiating a JCBA.

At one point, the officers of both groups met in caucus with the JNC (Joint Negotiating Committee) and ALPA National staff members. Unfortunately, this meeting started with a disappointing tone, as the XJT Officers expressed disbelief in the financial briefing and communicated a refusal to even partially acknowledge the Company?s current financial condition. Equally disturbing in the context of a JCBA, the XJT MEC appears to still operate under the impression that having two separate pilot labor agreements is acceptable to the pilots and the company. This behavior threatens the livelihood and wellbeing of every pilot at XJT, whether they fly a CRJ or an ERJ.
The next joint meeting of the ASA and XJT MECs has been tentatively scheduled for August 11th, to be held in Atlanta. The ASA representatives were very appreciative of the XJT representatives? candor but still remain cautious moving forward.
 

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The legacy XJET guys still think this is all a big accounting trick.

Wake up guys we truly ARE circling the bowl. It's not a trick.
 

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If only they had as many solutions they do acronyms.
 

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I wonder how quickly the ERJ side can shrink.. Probably quick enough.
 

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And they're still pushing the ridiculous globalized PBS. What are they thinking on that side?
I really wish we had never been merged with XJT. SKYW made a real big mistake.
 

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Reading that update shows everything wrong with this process. Whoever wrote it must be incredibly impressed with the many committee structures and fancy protocol agreements. What a complete joke - nothing will ever get done this way - total and complete waste of time. I can just see all the tersely written committee memos flying back and forth - bolstered by stern faces and hand wringing. Anyone who thinks this process will lead to a solution is dreaming.
 

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I wonder how quickly the ERJ side can shrink.. Probably quick enough.

Yeah, so that the better contract can be voted out of existence?

Let's not sell ourselves short. Neither side should be taking any concessions. The two MECs have already previously agreed on how to handle their differences on PBS. It's called the Process Agreement for Interim and Single PBS. It is part of the failed TA should be used in any new TA so that we can move forward with getting a contract that is not concessionary for either side.
 

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You see it that way. We see you as an anchor.

Well, if you see the ERJ contract as an anchor, why don't we just take the PSA deal then?

That's what your way of seeing it is equivalent to, PSAing the ERJ side!
 

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The problem is you want one list or nothing. With one list you'd still want your outliers, like the b-fund and be anti-pbs, which are things even the majors don't have any more. So, even if it were one list, we'd still have the same problem because you guys are delusional.
 
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What a mistake it was to buy Expressjet. Time to cut them lose. They can take their SmartPref and shove it.
 

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The problem is you want one list or nothing. With one list you'd still want your outliers, like the b-fund and be anti-pbs, which are things even the majors don't have any more. So, even if it were one list, we'd still have the same problem because you guys are delusional.

No, I've said I'd be willing to take Skywest book and their crappy PBS if it meant one list. This sentiment is not just mine. It's the reason management said shortly after the two MECs voted to send out the TA to vote that they are willing to give us Skywest book but not one list. They didn't just bring that up out of the blue.


What a mistake it was to buy Expressjet. Time to cut them lose. They can take their SmartPref and shove it.

Yeah, you rather PSA us than to fight for a non-concessionary contract for both sides.
 
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Yeah, you rather PSA us than to fight for a non-concessionary contract for both sides.
Yep! Your side trying to shove an inferior globalized PBS system down our throat has made most of us on this side ready to do just that.
 

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I couldn't care less what the hell happens to you guys any more..
 

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One List or NOTHING!
If you are talking about one list with SkyWest... I choose nothing. Your company already flushed the profitability of ASA. That was Inc.'s fault for buying your company. I sincerely hope they never merge. The original express jet company seems to be a cancer that's drying up all profitability.
 

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Yep! Your side trying to shove an inferior globalized PBS system down our throat has made most of us on this side ready to do just that.

No, there already is an agreed upon process to deal with the PBS issue. It's called the Process Agreement for Interim and Single PBS. What's wrong with a process that both sides have already agreed upon? Why not go with that rather than to PSA us?


I couldn't care less what the hell happens to you guys any more..

Well at least you are honest. I'ts more than what some PSA guys have said.


If you are talking about one list with SkyWest... I choose nothing. Your company already flushed the profitability of ASA. That was Inc.'s fault for buying your company. I sincerely hope they never merge. The original express jet company seems to be a cancer that's drying up all profitability.

No, that was Skywest who negotiated unprofitable CPAs. But yeah, I'm talking about one list for all 3 pilot groups.
 
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Says the guy currently flying a concessionary contract.
 

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Says the guy currently flying a concessionary contract.

Thanks to being whipsawed against Skywest pilots. But we did that to ourselves. We weren't trying to PSA anyone. And it is still a better contract than any out there, including yours!
 
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