ASA Hiring, according to Air Inc.

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ASA Hiring More, according to Air Inc.

ASA still hiring for more than attrition according to Air Inc.'s numbers.

Could, maybe, be good news

ASA - Air Wisconsin - Champion Air Interviewing Pilots DuringJob Fair in ATL on May 19​

Atlantic Southeast Airlines Interviewing in ATLoutbind://9-0000000048108CB7EFE69149A1306419BE46D39F640A2A00/#asa​

Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) plans to interview on-site during AIR, Inc.'s Airline Pilot Job Fair on Saturday, May 19th and give testing and Simulator evaluations on Sunday, May 20th.​

ASA has hired 159 pilots so far this year and plans on hiring an additional 40 - 50 pilots a month through 2007. For information on ASA's minimums and qualifications or to apply online, visit​

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http://www.flyasa.comoutbind://9-0000000048108CB7EFE69149A1306419BE46D39F640A2A00/#asa​

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ASA still hiring for more than attrition according to Air Inc.'s numbers.

Could, maybe, be good news

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GROWTH is coming.

 

[JoeMerchant]

GROWTH is coming.

That would be good Speedtape.... don't you think.... Are we still going to "shut'er down"???

 

[SPDBRD747400]

GROWTH is coming.

With all the bad news and no progress with our contract I hope your right!

 

[sweptback]

The rumor I'm hearing is that we're scrambling to find sim time. For what, I don't know... unless maybe SkyWest is taking over our sims again.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

I was talking to one of the night shift leads in MCN the other day, and he said they had been told to expect 20+ 700s to be converted to our certificate in the very near future, FWIW. Guy's a friend of mine and he hasn't given me bad info yet, so I'll hold off on the doom and gloom for the moment.

 

[COOPERVANE]

I saw a bunch of Brazilia's in new Delta colors in Hot springs the other day

 

[ASApuppy]

Well, I'll tell ya whats going on. Over 150 have resigned since the beginning of the year. Scattered from the whole list. Currently, training has fallen apart. The quality of our latest new hires can not make it through the program in 8 sims. The average is around 12 according to our IP's. Most are flunking out. According to some inside sources, only 10 pilots made it to the line last month. Thats out of their class of 40. We need 30 to hit the line to keep up with attrition. We are about 75 short. In addition, the maturity of some 20 year old, 400 hour kids are not getting recommended past CPT's. They simply are not ready for this business. Our IP's are on overload. IOE is backed up for weeks. Partly due to most Check Airmen are moving on to other airlines and most new hires can't be signed off in the minimum time. Once the new contract gets signed, the Check Airmen will only make a few hundred a month over just flying the line. Look for all to quit the Standards Dept between a TA (whenever we get one) and member ratification. Also, heard rumblings that another airline offered thousands of dollars to a whole new-hire class for anyone to come over after they finished ASA's training program.

Bottom line, our management has had their eye off the ball too long and a perfect storm has brewed. I used to think we were being played, but I am now convinced that our leadership is completely incompetent.

 

[jonjuan]

Also, heard rumblings that another airline offered thousands of dollars to a whole new-hire class for anyone to come over after they finished ASA's training program.

I heard it was Delta. They have been hiring over-qualified, 1,800 hour, future chief pilots.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Well, I'll tell ya whats going on. Over 150 have resigned since the beginning of the year. Scattered from the whole list. Currently, training has fallen apart. The quality of our latest new hires can not make it through the program in 8 sims. The average is around 12 according to our IP's. Most are flunking out. According to some inside sources, only 10 pilots made it to the line last month. Thats out of their class of 40. We need 30 to hit the line to keep up with attrition. We are about 75 short. In addition, the maturity of some 20 year old, 400 hour kids are not getting recommended past CPT's. They simply are not ready for this business. Our IP's are on overload. IOE is backed up for weeks. Partly due to most Check Airmen are moving on to other airlines and most new hires can't be signed off in the minimum time. Once the new contract gets signed, the Check Airmen will only make a few hundred a month over just flying the line. Look for all to quit the Standards Dept between a TA (whenever we get one) and member ratification. Also, heard rumblings that another airline offered thousands of dollars to a whole new-hire class for anyone to come over after they finished ASA's training program.

Bottom line, our management has had their eye off the ball too long and a perfect storm has brewed. I used to think we were being played, but I am now convinced that our leadership is completely incompetent.

Ummmm...not to burst your bubble or anything, but only one person has washed out of training from the CPTs, and at most two have washed out from the sim training in the last few months. (I can get more specific and accurate numbers for you tomorrow.) In NO WAY are MOST not making it to the line. It is true that the average footprint and average hours/cycles have gone up, but what do you expect from new hires with such little time.

I don't think that training has fallen apart, we are just hiring very inexperienced candidates at the moment, and they are requiring more training. It is completely expected, and anticipated.

As far as the LCPs go, yes they are leaving at a record pace, largely because Majors love to hire the best from the pilot group. (Who better to hire than instructors.) Yes, as long as the majors are hiring we will continue to see such attrition. It is natural, and has no bearing on the health of ASA.

To the new guys, and people who care, none of this has anything to do with the health or potential future of ASA. It has to do with the regional and major hiring environment as a whole. Don't listen to these inflamatory posts that are all doom and gloom. They are just in it for the drama, or for the purpose of making themselves look important.