ASA Getting 8 CRJ700, and Keeping 8 Additional

[79%N1]

Yea, as soon as you hand over the 4 700's you took from us already.

 

[buscap]

And how is that different from Skywest? Do you think a couple of morons like HelloNewman represent the sentiments of the Skywest pilots? NO THEY DON'T! The majority of the Skywest pilots don't want to grow at the expense of ASA or Comair.

Its interesting when a group is losing flying they yell and scream; whores, scabs, etc., but when they gain flying they have to take it back, they hem and haw, ah schucks we don't really want that flying but...you know...somebody has to do it.....Bunch of hypocrites!!!!!!!

They try to justify it with their union talk, but its just rhetoric. Here's a suggestion for the ASA guys...

Why don't you include in your negotiations a clause that says that you will not accept any flying, or airplanes, that is currently being done by another airline?

You Shortshafted-idiot size-challenged ,

Did I say anything about Skywest??? Don't be yanking on my post without an actual reference.

We're all doing flying which is argueably someone else's: The Delta pilots in their view.

If you are part of a company which is savvy enough to go out and get some flying, fine by me. But I wouldn't advise taking a paycut or other concessions to secure growth, and I'm not saying you guys did, because that sets you up for a long slide.

We're all trying to make a living, but I do honestly feel bad about what's happening to the Comair guys, just as I did when ACA took that long slow fall. They are Union kin and it just plain sucks. And yes, given the choice I would rather see Union guys do any flying.

And I do not believe the Comair guys are getting what's coming to them because of the concessions for growth thing.

 

[WWEfan]

No....the 'Good News for ASA' he was referring to was ASA is done being raped of our current fleet of aircraft by scumbag 700/900 flying for 50 seat rates Skywest pilots like you. So please allow us to be pleased we are done handing over our fleet to you, and not the Comair flying. Although, we all know you SKYW boys would rejoice in the taking of others flying.

Ummm...although it doesn't show in his profile, Snapperhead is NOT a SKYW pilot. He is one of us working on his 3rd or 4th airline job trying to get back to a major. He knows what this game is all about and he is certainly not happy about it.

Get your facts straight before you start laying down the verbal whippings. You lose credibility otherwise.

 

[WWEfan]

They try to justify it with their union talk, but its just rhetoric. Here's a suggestion for the ASA guys...

Why don't you include in your negotiations a clause that says that you will not accept any flying, or airplanes, that is currently being done by another airline?

What ASA is doing is bargaining for a contract that doesn't sellout its SKYW or Comair brothers and sisters.

You listen to too many flamers on this board. The majority of ASA pilots don't want to grow at anyone else's expense. We are PROVING that by not bending over for growth.

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

I suppose it OK then, that instead of SKYW getting the 12 70s, ASA is getting the CMR planes (plus their own back)--much better that way, keeping the flying in the union family. Maybe now people can start the scumbag ASA pilots posts about their stealing and moving flying from a union carrier...

 

[ASADFW7]

Well, ASA did not bid to undercut Comair wages to get these aircraft. The pilot group had zero involvement in this transfer of aircraft.

 

[Morning Wood]

so how is this different than Gojet? seems the same to me....and no i dont work there.....its just an observation

its seems everyone is eager to stick it to everyone else.......and then call names and assign fake blame....it seems standard in the regionals....I dont see any pilot group more guilty or innocent than another....and no im not bashing ASA.....but it seems that SKW can be awarded ALL the flying in the US , yet not get the same rap as Gojet...at least Gojet has a union now....do these guys as SKYW want it all?

Why do you guys think the pilots alone decide what code shares regionals get and what airplanes they're going to fly? Management negotiates and decides this stuff. Not pilots, not mechanics, not flight attendants, not rampers. Why is that so hard to understand? Everyone in the company is at the mercy of the decisions that are made by executives, whose job it is to do make those decisions. Your job is to fly an airplane from A to B, not buy airplanes or negotiate code shares.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Just imagine if management put as much effort into running a good company as they do into transferring airplanes, RFP's, and slashing pilot wages. Management is positively the worst thing to happen to aviation.

 

[Nightrain_080]

type rated without a job........too bad

You're right, what was I thinking??

I'm sure glad Pan Am is hiring! Can't wait to get that 707 FE seat so I can stroll through the terminal with 3 "stews" like Leo DiCockreo.

Maybe if I close my eyes and wish hard enough, it might be 1967 again.

Now click your heels together 3 times and say "There's no place like pre deregulation legacy carriers, there's no place like pre deregulation legacy carriers, there's no place like pre deregulation legacy carriers....."

You and your 737 type rating are the only ones clicking heels, wishing you were flying for Walmart. Maybe next round of interviews they will take you, then again maybe not. LOL have fun with your type rating applying elsewhere.

 

[Hootie9750]

ASA pilots deserve nothing. It's hilarious how it is NOT okay for ASA to have there flying "stolen" but it IS OKAY for them to "steal" some flying. Hypocrites...I wish Mesa owned you.

 

[FightingIrish]

The CMR guys didn't care about how their concessions would affect our negotiations at ASA, so why should we care if we get some of their 70s? Sorry, but I am happy about the growth. I still remember the CMR sticker we got just before they stabbed us in the back.

 

[Smarta$$]

I suppose it OK then, that instead of SKYW getting the 12 70s, ASA is getting the CMR planes (plus their own back)--much better that way, keeping the flying in the union family. Maybe now people can start the scumbag ASA pilots posts about their stealing and moving flying from a union carrier...

NO, the only peeps saying scumbag ASA will be skywest drivers.

 

[Smarta$$]

ASA pilots deserve nothing. It's hilarious how it is NOT okay for ASA to have there flying "stolen" but it IS OKAY for them to "steal" some flying. Hypocrites...I wish Mesa owned you.


On another note this will make more sense in the overall scheme of things to everyone once they read a certain press release.

When sill this press release be? I hope it is not what I think it is. This is such BS. If you guys had industry average 70-90 seat pay you would not be getting this flying. Management is giving you guys this flying because of low 76 seat pay and no union. It is a reward for being easily bent over.

 

[RollinOnMy22sYo]

You and your 737 type rating are the only ones clicking heels, wishing you were flying for Walmart. Maybe next round of interviews they will take you, then again maybe not. LOL have fun with your type rating applying elsewhere.

Yo, now dat's sum funny shinizit.

Get a clue Nightbrain, he's been on property at SWA for over a year.

Sounds like you're the one who might be "waiting for the next round" A bit bitter are we?

 

[SkyNation]

Why do you guys think the pilots alone decide what code shares regionals get and what airplanes they're going to fly? Management negotiates and decides this stuff. Not pilots, not mechanics, not flight attendants, not rampers. Why is that so hard to understand?

because all of the morons the cry and moan on this board are operating with a 3rd grade level of understanding when it comes to competition, the free market, and the future of the industry.

on another note, look for SkyWest to add a 4th partner is 2007. You heard it here first.