buscap
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I don't know, I'm not a SkyWest pilot. lol. but come check out the next SAPA meeting.
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I don't know, I'm not a SkyWest pilot. lol. but come check out the next SAPA meeting.
For those with a wife and kids living below their means for years and years - what do you think about picking up open time? For those who are single and paying off a $100k plus student loan for flight training driving a new M3 on a car loan - what do you think about picking up open time?
I get many various answers from the guys I fly with. I know guys who have massive medical bills for their family members. I know others with loads of debt from school. I've spoken with many others who live beyond their means and others who are very frugal. My opinions are often different from others but I never think poorly of others who work more so they can cover important costs.
Remember that the decisions being made are only being made by managers and not by the workers. Don't hate the players but you can hate the game for certain.
And all Skywest pilots know they owe all those things to ALPA or other airline unions.
Like I asked Joe, what would their pay and QOL be without the bar being raised at the union carriers over the years?
you need to check your facts. You probably weren't around in the business in the '90s but skywest lead the industry with pay and work rules by far. Almost every pilot at the other regionals were tacking the skywest rates and work rules to the doors of management and saying just give us this and we'll be happy. I know this for a fact. (ok, so maybe not almost every pilot)
9/11 changed alot and after that skywest told us all that they'd have to back off from their promise to keep us ahead of everyone else. Jerry atkin had the foresight to see what was a head. We're not leading anymore or at the top but we're not anywhere near the bottom, morale is better then at most places, we sleep at night and we're not in the same situation as asa, comair, expressjet and whoever else. Sorry guys but don't be blaming us for anything or accusing us of feeding off anyone else.
Also yes, an RJ could make more money if they could actually charge more given the fact that we offer fewer seats, but they don't.
We compete with other airlines, and if they do not do exactly what we do, there is no way to employ that strategy. DAL is stuck pricing tickets with the market.
Fact is that with that market they will actually have a better yeild on the lower priced tickets with a larger jet. The RJ's are very costly per seat mile, where as the larger jets are not.
Your logic does not make sense. RJ's currently are the only aircraft operating on many routes. They compete against other RJ's. The market is currently limited in the number of seats in that market, compared to using larger jets. The price for those seats is more than had the market been flooded with more seats on larger jets. So you're telling me you would throw an '88 on a market currently served by a single CRJ200, so you could take advantage of the lower CASM? Even if you replaced three 200's with one '88, sure it would cost you less, but since a market is defined by a specific city pair at a specific time, you still would not get as many pax on that '88 due to the specific times that pax want to travel.
The airlines are doing the best they can at matching aircraft size to available market; it's pretty silly to think that we know more than the people looking at the actual number of beans in front of them.
If there is anyone in the business who knows what they're doing it's Jerry Atkin of Skywest, Inc. He says the CRJ700s and 900s are money makers but the 200s are not anymore.
You need to check your facts. You probably weren't around in the business in the '90s but Skywest lead the industry with pay and work rules by far. Almost every pilot at the other regionals were tacking the Skywest rates and work rules to the doors of management and saying just give us this and we'll be happy. I know this for a fact. (OK, so maybe not almost every pilot)
9/11 changed alot and after that Skywest told us all that they'd have to back off from their promise to keep us ahead of everyone else. Jerry Atkin had the foresight to see what was a head. We're not leading anymore or at the top but we're not anywhere near the bottom, morale is better then at most places, we sleep at night and we're not in the same situation as ASA, Comair, ExpressJet and whoever else. Sorry guys but don't be blaming us for anything or accusing us of feeding off anyone else.