APA's Prez Throws Down on Management

[Dangerkitty]

Ignorance is not a putdown Kitty!
I believe I can help you with this term Crandalism.
Pilots when hired and not acquired by AA seem to get a partial lobotomy before hitting the real world. These pilots then get filled with Greed, Selfishness, and (AA)rrogance before hitting the line. If you did not show up for class with the World Revolves Around Me Perspective On Everything, they implant it before they allow you to join the APA. These are all necessary and important behavioral steps to becoming an APA member and completely distancing yourself nationally from all your brothers of trade.
These are some of the symptoms and behavioral traits displayed by your fellow (AA)viators. They have aligned themselves with their Corporations greed instead of fellow aviators and brothers of the trade. These behaviors that started in the 80’s and witnessed by thousands of fellow pilots coined the phrase or term Crandalism.
I hope this helps your understanding and maybe with time away from AA, and some maturing, you might outgrow the stink that follows you and your Crandalism/AAttitude.
Mach8forest

Hmmmmmm, interesting.

I wonder what the term was for the TWA pilots when they gave the Ozark guys "Date of Hire."

 

[Mach8Forest]

Hmmmmmm, interesting.

I wonder what the term was for the TWA pilots when they gave the Ozark guys "Date of Hire."

Your showing your ignorance again Kitty!
Mach8Forest

 

[Dangerkitty]

Your showing your ignorance again Kitty!
Mach8Forest

No I am not. Didn't TWA give Ozark "Date of Hire?"

 

[Mach8Forest]

Yes they did get date of hire. Should it have been better? Maybe.
I can hear your sarcasm a mile away. I had friends on both sides that feel they were hurt when the fence eventually came down. Its funny how you APA scabs bring up our merger with Ozark everytime someone makes you look in the mirror.
Mach8Forest

 

[ERfly]

APA scabs

Did anyone cross for the 20 minutes the AA guys were out before that genious, Bubba put 'em back to work?

I don't recall there being any scabs at AA. Maybe I'm too young.

 

[kjokmo]

Sorry to say with AA parking planes and the likely Age 60 rule going to 65, it is going to be awhile for recalls. Just guessing but 2008/9 before the first man is recalled? The good thing is it will probably be pretty quick to go through the list since most folks have moved on to greener pastures.. FedEX, SWA, etc... And the thought of 18 days of reserve in NY makes most sick!uke:

I laugh everytime someone tries to GUESS when recalls will start. You would be better off guessing the next lotto numbers.

 

[Dangerkitty]

Yes they did get date of hire. Should it have been better? Maybe.I can hear your sarcasm a mile away. I had friends on both sides that feel they were hurt when the fence eventually came down.

Yeah they got DOH but didn't get longevity during furlough like the TWA pilots did. The fact of the matter is the Ozark pilots were screwed royally by the TWA pilots.

Its funny how you APA scabs bring up our merger with Ozark everytime someone makes you look in the mirror.
Mach8Forest

Why are you calling me a scab? I have never been involved in a strike nor have I ever crossed a picket line. Furthermore, as I have stated about 1000 times here I also had nothing to do wih the buyout, acquisition, nor the integration.

But I have gotten over my hard feelings and bitterness towards the whole deal. I am sorry that you continue to boil in your hatred and self pity.

 

[ironspud]

Yes they did get date of hire. Should it have been better? Maybe.
I can hear your sarcasm a mile away. I had friends on both sides that feel they were hurt when the fence eventually came down. Its funny how you APA scabs bring up our merger with Ozark everytime someone makes you look in the mirror.
Mach8Forest

She's just a disgruntled AA pilot.:crying:

 

[Dangerkitty]

She's just a disgruntled AA pilot.:crying:

Thats what I have been saying all along. Mach8Forest IS a disgruntled TWA/AA pilot.

 

[stlflyguy]

Yeah they got DOH but didn't get longevity during furlough like the TWA pilots did. The fact of the matter is the Ozark pilots were screwed royally by the TWA pilots.



Why are you calling me a scab? I have never been involved in a strike nor have I ever crossed a picket line. Furthermore, as I have stated about 1000 times here I also had nothing to do wih the buyout, acquisition, nor the integration.

But I have gotten over my hard feelings and bitterness towards the whole deal. I am sorry that you continue to boil in your hatred and self pity.

To call you a dip#hit would be a compliment. The Ozark pilots received date of hire and guess what...AGREED TO IT by signing the merger document.

The TWA pilots in the AA deal would have gladly accepted the "Ozark Agreement" but your Union knew that giving the TW pilots OZ would be too good of a deal. So you kept better than 130 former TWA aircraft and staffed them with a fraction's fraction of TWA pilots. All during the false guise of sitting through "facilitated" discussions to work to an integration agreement that the APA already had agreed to months before with the Company. The TWA pilots were not signatories to this POS cramdown. If anything I hope it ends up right up the collective arses of the APA and AMR. Try that for a "$hit sandwich."

No, you may not have crossed a picket line but you did everything you could to f*&k as many TWA pilots as possible. Pretty "scab worthy" in my book.

stlflyguy