ALPA sues SKYW

[ImbracableCrunk]

We get phone calls from the wilson polling center after repeated instructions to not call us. We gave them plenty of chances to leave us alone yet they still persist. We informed them we were on the DO NOT CALL list meaning we do not want to be solicited. They refused to stop harassing us so we filed a group complaint with the FCC.

The "do not call list" doesn't have anything to do with your complaint.

1. If I register my number on the National Do Not Call Registry, will it stop all telemarketing calls?No. Placing your number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop most telemarketing calls, but not all. Because of limitations in the jurisdiction of the FTC and FCC, calls from or on behalf of political organizations, charities, and telephone surveyors would still be permitted, as would calls from companies with which you have an existing business relationship, or those to whom you’ve provided express agreement in writing to receive their calls.
2. Are calls from political organizations or calls soliciting for charities covered?Political solicitations are not covered by the TSR at all, since they are not included in its definition of “telemarketing.” Charities are not covered by the requirements of the national registry. However, if a third-party telemarketer is calling on behalf of a charity, a consumer may ask not to receive any more calls from, or on behalf of, that specific charity. If a third-party telemarketer calls again on behalf of that charity, the telemarketer may be subject to a fine of up to $11,000.
3. What about telephone surveys?If the call is really for the sole purpose of conducting a survey, it is not covered. Only telemarketing calls are covered — that is, calls that solicit sales of goods or services. Callers purporting to take a survey, but also offering to sell goods or services, must comply with the National Do Not Call Registry.

 

[XPOO]

ATTN: SKYWEST PILOT ALPA SUPPORTERS

Tired of beating a dead horse into the ground? Want to be the dead horse being beat into the ground for a change? Want to work for an airline with ALPA representation? Mesa is hiring, like crazy! Get your app in ASAP.

 

[XJohXJ]

nothing more stupid than a pilot pretending he knows something about politics, and also thinking he is so smart that he can voice himself on a aviation slam board. morons......

Wow, now that's a distinctly UnAmerican sentiment there. It is the duty of every single American Citizen (even the ones you might not like or agree with) to be informed and involved with our politics. The less average citizens are involved, the more our system fails to serve us.

 

[Leroy Smith]

ATTN: SKYWEST PILOT ALPA SUPPORTERS

Tired of beating a dead horse into the ground? Want to be the dead horse being beat into the ground for a change? Want to work for an airline with ALPA representation? Mesa is hiring, like crazy! Get your app in ASAP.

Is ALPA the problem? What would MAG be like without ALPA? Just a little slice of heaven, I'm sure. JO would be treating his employees so much better if those union thugs were'nt mucking it all up.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

ATTN: SKYWEST PILOT ALPA SUPPORTERS

Tired of beating a dead horse into the ground? Want to be the dead horse being beat into the ground for a change? Want to work for an airline with ALPA representation? Mesa is hiring, like crazy! Get your app in ASAP.

Ratings: Dispatch

 

[Stifler's Mom]

HelloNewman,

Congratulations. You get to represent the Atkin Kennel Club at the big show in St. George. Just remember, when you are posing and prancing in front of the judges, to keep that shaved ass of yours held up nice and high like the proud little puppy that you are. Then when it comes time to hand out those blue ribbons, it'll be such an exciting time for you, but for the love of God, Newman, you gotta try not to squeeze out a dookie on the astroturf. Because, God forbid you were ever an embarrassment to Master Jerry, right?

 

[siucavflight]

I dont see what the big deal is. Let the SKW pilots vote, if they vote no then fine. SKW is not a company that is dragging the regional industry down. How about we go and help one of our union carriers such as Mesa treat their employees as well as SKW pilots are treated by their management team.
Me personally, I like ALPA, I am treated very well at Eagle, but I feel that it is only because we have someone looking out for us, this management team that we have here would love to treat us like Mesa employees, but ALPA keeps that from happening here.
Take my two percent and do something more worth while with it rather then trying to organize a group that does not want to be organized.
One word of caution to the SKW group, what happens when management changes and starts treating you poorly, or simply dont honor your contracts, will you come running to ALPA for help, or will you just bend over?

 

[CallmeJB]

When a friend of mine was hired at SkyWest a management type came into his new hire class and told the new hires point blank that "if ALPA is voted in the growth will stop" I'm sure there are many people that have witnessed events such as this.

It is not difficult to cross the line of hindering organization efforts, the law basically requires that the company say/do nothing, a requirement that most companies find impossible to follow.

The growth is over, for all regionals. The only growth left is replacing 50 seaters with 90 seaters, and that's not growth at all.

There's no point in blaming ALPA.

But I can see what happens if ALPA comes on SKW property: "We grew like crazy for 6 years, and then ALPA came in and the growth stopped."

Just my $.02

 

[Tarzan]

The growth is over, for all regionals. The only growth left is replacing 50 seaters with 90 seaters, and that's not growth at all.

There's no point in blaming ALPA.

But I can see what happens if ALPA comes on SKW property: "We grew like crazy for 6 years, and then ALPA came in and the growth stopped."

Just my $.02

Sounds like something Hello-I'm-a-little-biatch would say about the lack of growth due to ALPA. You guys need to remove your heads from the 4th point of contact and recognize the JA does not have your best interest at heart.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I don't understand why this is so contraversial. It's the organizing playbook, page 20. When pilot attention starts to wane, incite a violation of the RLA, sue the company on that issue, use it to promote your cause.

 

[skypine69]

hey newman,
do you think it is harrasement (or even professional) for a chief pilot to come over to you in the crew lounge and demand that you take off you alpa lanyard in front of everyone because it doesnt comply with our policy manual? and then you see everyone else wearing chicago bears or harley davidson lanyards. why are you so worried about it? if you are so sure that it wont pass then just wait for the vote and we will go on our way. as far as the phone calls, you do know that there is nothing that says you have answer your phone dont you?
i am proud to wear my alpa lanyard again, they have done more for this profession in the past 60 years than you could even dream of. I am glad you were not around then, if you had it would be about the same as working for mcdonalds.

 

[HelloNewman]

hey newman,
do you think it is harrasement (or even professional) for a chief pilot to come over to you in the crew lounge and demand that you take off you alpa lanyard in front of everyone because it doesnt comply with our policy manual? and then you see everyone else wearing chicago bears or harley davidson lanyards. why are you so worried about it? if you are so sure that it wont pass then just wait for the vote and we will go on our way. as far as the phone calls, you do know that there is nothing that says you have answer your phone dont you?
i am proud to wear my alpa lanyard again, they have done more for this profession in the past 60 years than you could even dream of. I am glad you were not around then, if you had it would be about the same as working for mcdonalds.

That depends? Was anyone else around? The best way to handle it is to confront the person when no one else is around. Laynards are against our uniform policy period. It is not an ALPA thing it is a matter of policy. I worry about the lawsuit because they are already damaging company relations. This is a lame PR ploy as one last gasp to try and salvage the union drive.

They already harass the new hires so I don't see what else they want. They talk to every newhire that comes through here. They are just mad because we are apathetic when it comes to ALPA. What they have supposedly done for the industry in the past does not matter to me. They have done nothing significant in the present which therefore makes them irrelevant. This is a what have you done for me today society. That is just the way it is. My question for you is what is ALPA so afraid of? This drive has been going on since 2005 and no vote is on the horizon.

 

[Ponchus pilot]

They have done nothing significant in the present which therefore makes them irrelevant. This is a what have you done for me today society. That is just the way it is. My question for you is what is ALPA so afraid of? This drive has been going on since 2005 and no vote is on the horizon.

Yet again you talk out of your A$$. ALPA has and is doing lots for the industry as a whole. You Choose to close your eyes, if you realy wanted to see there is plenty of information out there on what the organization has done. ALPA is not affraid of anything, the real question is what are you really afraid of. Why are you so close minded and negative. How many meetings have you attended? How many books have you read? You sound like a broken record bro. If you really want to get an answer to your pointless questions you can attend a meeting, even though I doubt that you would really want to know the truth. Keep talking $hit, you might really get what you wish for.

 

[DrunkIrishman]

If I were a Skywest pilot, I would be curious why my company was being sued for failure to comply with a labor relations law. I wouldn't be blaming the labor group; instead, I would be asking my employers why they cannot comply with the law since they certainly require me to comply with the law.

What are they afraid of in St. George? I thought the drive was going to fail? Why would a company not want an organized labor group? Hmmm....

 

[Scope out RJ's]

It's dead already... this is called DESPERATION.....

Kind of like the rjdc lawsuit!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Kind of like the rjdc lawsuit!

Whoa!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ski Bum]

It is important for SKYW pilots to realize that the Organizing Committee filed the lawsuit as a LAST resort. It was only after management didn’t respond to letters and phone calls that the OC determined that our right to organize and the success of something we believe in was being illegally hindered.
I can assure you that SKYW management was tearing down fliers from bulletin boards, kicking OC members out of the training center when we attempted to distribute materials to new hires, and not allowing us access to the crewrooms. These are all items that are our fundamental rights granted under the Railway Labor Act. SKYW chose to ignore the law and the OC did the right thing in calling them on it.
I also want to say that the Organizing drive is alive and well. Cards continue to come in on a daily basis. Although some pilots who have made up their mind are growing tired of hearing about ALPA, many pilots are still gathering information so that they can make an informed decision about their future. Also, many new hires have not had the opportunity to learn about the drive due to managements tactics. Instead of throwing around inflammatory remarks, why don’t we allow people to gather information unfettered, make a decision, and vote.

 

[Dubya]

So is this Alpa thing going to interfere with me rolling the cheeba on downwind into SFO?

 

[Bako Cap]

It is important for SKYW pilots to realize that the Organizing Committee filed the lawsuit as a LAST resort.

Bulls#!+. Having the vote is. The OC has a majority of the pilots cards. Petition the NLRB and have the vote. Sadly I think the OC is waiting for the outcome of ASA negotiations. ASA brothers thrown under the bus for SkyWest pilots (again?).

ALPAOC - "Managment forced us to sue."
SAPA - "Managment forced us to consent"

WOW, sounds familiar. The last thing I want is a weak ALPA union at SkyWest full of managment hacks like SAPA. Reactive rather than proactive. I guess I'll just have to vote Teamsters.

 

[pookie]

Why dont you organize teamsters since all you do is complain. Support ALPA or SAPA but dont cry like a little baby and do nothing about it. tool.