Aloha Airlines files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy

[Der Kommissar]

It just so happens that the mighty Falco was on the airways when I was trying to choose my name for the cesspool that is FlightInfo. I had registration problems with "Chicken Choker", so Der Kommissar it is.

Anybody got any ideas what Carney (sp?) is going to do to HAL? He's kinda Emperor Palpatine-ish in his evilness, eh? Yes, I'm a geek. I really hope that they can get someone in there to drive the bus the right way. I had a chance to meet Mark Dunkerly when they still let me play in the sandbox, and he was a really nice guy. One of the few management types I've met that actually seemed to give a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** about the employees. Of course...then there was no job for me after that. Doh!

(edit) You've got to be kidding me. What sort of puritanical "moral majority" filter is on this board? Hahahah... Shugar Honey Ice Tea! Muhahaha...filter that.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

One of the few management types I've met that actually seemed to give a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** about the employees..

"seemed" being the operative word...

(edit) You've got to be kidding me. What sort of puritanical "moral majority" filter is on this board? Hahahah... Shugar Honey Ice Tea! Muhahaha...filter that.

Don't get me started...

 

[Dan Roman]

Hugh, your comment about Dunkerly is wrong. He has proven himself. He has made numerous innovations and he has the support of the majority of the employee's. One of Hawaiians stongest assets is it's use of technology, they've spent millions and Dunkerly is a big part of that. There is not a single example of anything he has done that has been anything but be upfront and to the benefit of Hawaiian Airlines. He is management, his job is running an airline and he is doing an excellant job.

 

[Der Kommissar]

Hugh was across the tarmac, albeit for a short while.

I stand by my feelings about Dunkerly. Just wish that there was space for me over there in Dispatch!

 

[dash8driver]

Dan,

Time will tell. No one can be certain if that statement is wrong or not until he's left the building. Hugh's comment (actually Kommisar used "seemed", Hugh just emphasized it) is one of skepticism and caution. Sure he's been a great guy...so far. Thats the way it starts off most of the time. Based on the track record of airline management in general, if he turned around and hosed everyone over, it wouldnt be out of the norm and shouldnt be a big suprise. It wouldnt be the first airline manager to shake your hand and pick your pocket at the same time.

We're all glad he's doing a great job so far and hope he keeps it up and he breaks the stereotype of airline managers. Just dont be so eager for a savior that you let your guard down. I know your MEC guys are doing a good job of that.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

He is management, his job is running an airline

You would be wise to keep that in mind as you lionize him.

 

[Dan Roman]

Yor right, don't mean to put him on a pedistal. The jury is always out on any of them, but Dunkerly is starting to be perceived in the Bethune/ Kellaher league by quite a few employee's and of course their are always those that disagree.
The reason for rising to his defense is because the proponets of the HARC plan have been trying to discredit his accomplishments as well as slander Ranch Capital. So I'm quick to point out whats right with Hawaiian since so much false info has been put out.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Mar/14/bz/bz01p.html

Just another example that anything other than Hawaiian seems to be on a positive path is probably mistaken.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I do hope for the best for you guys.
Man, I was thinking about dropping a few grand on HA stock when it hit the bottom not long after BK was declared. Sure wish I would have. Best of luck.

 

[mdanno808]

Wanna know what's worse than that? Soon after the stock took a $hit, Gottbaum told all the employees the stock would soon be worthless, and implied that we should think about selling ours. I sold mine for just over a buck a share, and got about 1300 dollars. Man it still makes me sick.

 

[English]

Anybody have any ideas on how to get Aloha to pay me my last paycheck, and pay me for my accrued and unused vacation? I'm running out of ideas, other than going to the state labor department. It's been over three weeks, and all Lydia keeps giving me is excuses.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Anybody have any ideas on how to get Aloha to pay me my last paycheck, and pay me for my accrued and unused vacation? I'm running out of ideas, other than going to the state labor department. It's been over three weeks, and all Lydia keeps giving me is excuses.

Shall I call Kimo and Blala Bu to help them find their checkbooks?

 

[English]

That's kinda the response I was hoping for!

 

[AQ PILOT]

I'm curious....what is Lydia giving as an excuse? She SO needs to go bye bye....

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I'm curious....what is Lydia giving as an excuse? She SO needs to go bye bye....

And she has bad breath.

 

[HA pilot]

I've been reading this thread awhile now, and I am definitely not an expert on Aloha or Hawaiian for that matter. But it seems that it's Zander that should have gone bye-bye along time ago, along with some of our guys too. Hang in there guys, it always seems worse on the inside than it really is. We're living proof.

 

[AQ PILOT]

I highly doubt you'll get anyone to argue with you that Zander needed to go....there were no tears shed when he left....

 

[English]

I'm curious....what is Lydia giving as an excuse? She SO needs to go bye bye....

Here's what happened over the last three weeks...short version...

The first excuse was that she hadn't received my badge. OK, that was reasonable (except that it is still against Hawaiian state law to withhold my paycheck until the return of company property). So I called her and told her I fedex'd it a week prior. She said she hadn't received it. I had already tracked the package on the fedex website, so I told her the date and time it had been signed for. She feigned ignorance and said she'd call me back after she looked around. She never called me back. So a couple of days later I called and offered her the tracking number as proof that I had actually sent the badge back. At this point I could read her attitude in the tone of her voice, and knew she didn't believe me. She said she'd track the number and get back to me. She didn't. So the next day I called her and she was very apologetic. Seems after they tracked the package they realized it was there, and actually looked for it, and found it. It had been there since March 1. She offered to send the check out right away, but first she had to fix an error on my check. Seems she shorted me by about a weeks' pay. She said she was having a second check issued to cover the difference, and they'd be fedex'd to me the next day. I waited a couple of days, and when fedex never stopped by my home, I called her to get a tracking number. She said she had been waiting to hear back from me, whether I wanted to have one check sent, or wait for both. I said it didn't matter, that she could send what she had. I waited a couple more days, no package. I made yet another call. This time, she said she had been too busy to ship it to me (yes, that is actually what she said). I was losing my patience, and informed her that Aloha was in violation of state law by withholding my paycheck so long. She said I'd have it the next morning. That was Wednesday, today is Saturday, and I still don't have it.

ARGHH!

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I would drop an email to PC.

 

[English]

I did. Got the out of the office til March 28th automatic reply.

Any other ideas?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Ls????