Aloha Airlines files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy

[Der Kommissar]

It just so happens that the mighty Falco was on the airways when I was trying to choose my name for the cesspool that is FlightInfo. I had registration problems with "Chicken Choker", so Der Kommissar it is.

Anybody got any ideas what Carney (sp?) is going to do to HAL? He's kinda Emperor Palpatine-ish in his evilness, eh? Yes, I'm a geek. I really hope that they can get someone in there to drive the bus the right way. I had a chance to meet Mark Dunkerly when they still let me play in the sandbox, and he was a really nice guy. One of the few management types I've met that actually seemed to give a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** about the employees. Of course...then there was no job for me after that. Doh!

(edit) You've got to be kidding me. What sort of puritanical "moral majority" filter is on this board? Hahahah... Shugar Honey Ice Tea! Muhahaha...filter that.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

One of the few management types I've met that actually seemed to give a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** about the employees..

"seemed" being the operative word...

(edit) You've got to be kidding me. What sort of puritanical "moral majority" filter is on this board? Hahahah... Shugar Honey Ice Tea! Muhahaha...filter that.

Don't get me started...

 

[Dan Roman]

Hugh, your comment about Dunkerly is wrong. He has proven himself. He has made numerous innovations and he has the support of the majority of the employee's. One of Hawaiians stongest assets is it's use of technology, they've spent millions and Dunkerly is a big part of that. There is not a single example of anything he has done that has been anything but be upfront and to the benefit of Hawaiian Airlines. He is management, his job is running an airline and he is doing an excellant job.

 

[Der Kommissar]

Hugh was across the tarmac, albeit for a short while.

I stand by my feelings about Dunkerly. Just wish that there was space for me over there in Dispatch!

 

[dash8driver]

Dan,

Time will tell. No one can be certain if that statement is wrong or not until he's left the building. Hugh's comment (actually Kommisar used "seemed", Hugh just emphasized it) is one of skepticism and caution. Sure he's been a great guy...so far. Thats the way it starts off most of the time. Based on the track record of airline management in general, if he turned around and hosed everyone over, it wouldnt be out of the norm and shouldnt be a big suprise. It wouldnt be the first airline manager to shake your hand and pick your pocket at the same time.

We're all glad he's doing a great job so far and hope he keeps it up and he breaks the stereotype of airline managers. Just dont be so eager for a savior that you let your guard down. I know your MEC guys are doing a good job of that.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

He is management, his job is running an airline

You would be wise to keep that in mind as you lionize him.

 

[Dan Roman]

Yor right, don't mean to put him on a pedistal. The jury is always out on any of them, but Dunkerly is starting to be perceived in the Bethune/ Kellaher league by quite a few employee's and of course their are always those that disagree.
The reason for rising to his defense is because the proponets of the HARC plan have been trying to discredit his accomplishments as well as slander Ranch Capital. So I'm quick to point out whats right with Hawaiian since so much false info has been put out.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Mar/14/bz/bz01p.html

Just another example that anything other than Hawaiian seems to be on a positive path is probably mistaken.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I do hope for the best for you guys.
Man, I was thinking about dropping a few grand on HA stock when it hit the bottom not long after BK was declared. Sure wish I would have. Best of luck.

 

[mdanno808]

Wanna know what's worse than that? Soon after the stock took a $hit, Gottbaum told all the employees the stock would soon be worthless, and implied that we should think about selling ours. I sold mine for just over a buck a share, and got about 1300 dollars. Man it still makes me sick.

 

[English]

Anybody have any ideas on how to get Aloha to pay me my last paycheck, and pay me for my accrued and unused vacation? I'm running out of ideas, other than going to the state labor department. It's been over three weeks, and all Lydia keeps giving me is excuses.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Anybody have any ideas on how to get Aloha to pay me my last paycheck, and pay me for my accrued and unused vacation? I'm running out of ideas, other than going to the state labor department. It's been over three weeks, and all Lydia keeps giving me is excuses.

Shall I call Kimo and Blala Bu to help them find their checkbooks?

 

[English]

That's kinda the response I was hoping for!

 

[AQ PILOT]

I'm curious....what is Lydia giving as an excuse? She SO needs to go bye bye....

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I'm curious....what is Lydia giving as an excuse? She SO needs to go bye bye....

And she has bad breath.

 

[HA pilot]

I've been reading this thread awhile now, and I am definitely not an expert on Aloha or Hawaiian for that matter. But it seems that it's Zander that should have gone bye-bye along time ago, along with some of our guys too. Hang in there guys, it always seems worse on the inside than it really is. We're living proof.

 

[AQ PILOT]

I highly doubt you'll get anyone to argue with you that Zander needed to go....there were no tears shed when he left....

 

[English]

I'm curious....what is Lydia giving as an excuse? She SO needs to go bye bye....

Here's what happened over the last three weeks...short version...

The first excuse was that she hadn't received my badge. OK, that was reasonable (except that it is still against Hawaiian state law to withhold my paycheck until the return of company property). So I called her and told her I fedex'd it a week prior. She said she hadn't received it. I had already tracked the package on the fedex website, so I told her the date and time it had been signed for. She feigned ignorance and said she'd call me back after she looked around. She never called me back. So a couple of days later I called and offered her the tracking number as proof that I had actually sent the badge back. At this point I could read her attitude in the tone of her voice, and knew she didn't believe me. She said she'd track the number and get back to me. She didn't. So the next day I called her and she was very apologetic. Seems after they tracked the package they realized it was there, and actually looked for it, and found it. It had been there since March 1. She offered to send the check out right away, but first she had to fix an error on my check. Seems she shorted me by about a weeks' pay. She said she was having a second check issued to cover the difference, and they'd be fedex'd to me the next day. I waited a couple of days, and when fedex never stopped by my home, I called her to get a tracking number. She said she had been waiting to hear back from me, whether I wanted to have one check sent, or wait for both. I said it didn't matter, that she could send what she had. I waited a couple more days, no package. I made yet another call. This time, she said she had been too busy to ship it to me (yes, that is actually what she said). I was losing my patience, and informed her that Aloha was in violation of state law by withholding my paycheck so long. She said I'd have it the next morning. That was Wednesday, today is Saturday, and I still don't have it.

ARGHH!

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I would drop an email to PC.

 

[English]

I did. Got the out of the office til March 28th automatic reply.

Any other ideas?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Ls????

 

[English]

Did that. He said I had to go through flight ops.

 

[RJP]

I'm curious....what is Lydia giving as an excuse? She SO needs to go bye bye....

Does she work for WP as well? Maybe that's why no one ever gets paid correctly.

On another note, any details on the rumor that the NYC investment company that promised $90 mil has dropped out? Heard that one the other day.

Cheers.

 

[RJP]

Here's what happened over the last three weeks...short version...ARGHH!

Wow, I'd hate to hear the long version. If it makes you feel any better, a couple of pilots called pay at WP to find out why they got shorted (again) and were promptly told that they'd end up with a letter in their file if they didn't go through ops and called pay directly in the future.

One company. Two names. Same **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Did that. He said I had to go through flight ops.

Uhhh, I thought he was flight ops. You are at the point I have been in the past with companies where nobody would help. It's time to be such a nuisance that they pay you so that you will just leave them alone. Call PM, call, Pua, call every stinking person in Flt Ops. Everyday. Everyday at 8am. Then call them at 4PM. They'll get sick of it. Ask every one of them what they would do and how they would feel if they were in your shoes.
Call the F/O rep. Call the MEC. Call everyone. Write a letter and make up a a letterhead that says something like, Goldschwartz, Sheisterman,and Fitch. Make up some text threatening legal action. Heck, in the end, you may not get squat since they are in CH 11, but I bet when PC gets back, he'll help.
When this is over, she'll still have bad breath.

Actually, before you do all that, talk sweetly to Pua. She helped me in a situation not unlike yours.

 

[English]

Thanks Hugh. I'll try to be more of a pest. I figured my options were to 1) be more patient (not working) or 2) just escalate the situation and go to the state labor department and file a complaint. I like your suggestion as I'd rather handle it directly. I can just envision Lydia screwing up my PRIA stuff to get even if I get her in trouble.

I'll try Pua. That was originally where I started but she was off for a couple weeks going to Jill's wedding or something.

If this doesn't work though, I'd like to talk to you about post 251...

 

[English]

Well Pua came through for me.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Cool, that oughta help pay for the fancy, new grill!

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Mar/21/bz/bz01p.html
Don't read the second to the last paragraph while drinking milk.

 

[RJP]

Don't read the second to the last paragraph while drinking milk.

Yep, the milk came right out my nose! This one will do the same.

Check the numbers in this baby.


Aloha revenue rose 10.7% during 2004

Aloha Airlines saw its revenue increase 10.7 percent last year to $454.3 million from $410.2 million in 2003, according to a recent company filing in Bankruptcy Court.

In the recent filing, Aloha also disclosed it had $9.1 million in assets and $543.7 million in liabilities at the time of its bankruptcy. Nearly $519 million of the liabilities include secured claims from aircraft lessors, who have since been brought up to date on their monthly payments.

Chief Executive and President David Banmiller earlier this year said the airline lost $24 million in 2004 - its fifth loss in the past six years - and saw fuel prices increase by $24 million over the previous year. In January, he described the airline's cash position as "a couple million dollars" before it began receiving loans and was able to postpone making aircraft lease payments under a 60-day bankruptcy exemption.

Since then, the company has resumed aircraft payments and is in the process now of seeking additional loans from outside investors. Aloha will select a winning bidder Wednesday from among interested investors.

 

[RJP]

More Cheery News From AQ

Pacific Business News (Honolulu) - March 22, 2005
http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2005/03/21/daily8.html

LATEST NEWS

Pacific Business News (Honolulu) - 2:43 PM HST Tuesday

Aloha finds new investors

Prabha Natarajan

Bankrupt Aloha Airlines scrambled to find new investors over the weekend after its initial prospective financier withdrew its $90 million package.

MatlinPatterson Global Opportunities Partners II LP had until last Friday to come up with $65 million as part of its $90 million offer. However, the company decided to withdraw its offer.

"MatlinPatterson advised Aloha that it was not prepared to advance its proposal at this time," said Aloha spokesman Stu Glauberman.

The airline found a replacement deal on Sunday -- a $65 million interim financing agreement from Ableco Finance LLC and Goldman Sachs Credit Partners LP, both based out of New York.

Aloha will pay a steep price for the loan but needs the cash infusion immediately to cover its loan repayments and everyday expenses including payroll.

On Monday, the airline filed an emergency motion in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court seeking approval of its interim-financing deal. A court hearing is scheduled for Thursday.

The loan will buy Aloha time to continue its financial restructuring and its go-forward business plan, Glauberman said.

The airline plans to be out of bankruptcy by this summer.

In the bankruptcy filing, Aloha, with $400 million in gross annual revenue, paints a stark image of a company with no money in the bank, mired in debt, and suffering a $1.7 million operating loss in January.

"Without the protection afforded by Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code, [Aloha] will run out of cash and will not be able to operate after March 30, 2005," the company stated in a court filing.

The airline needs $10 million to meet its expenses for this month.

Earlier, the bankruptcy court approved a bidding process for Aloha that would provide the airline with either a $65 million loan or alternative financing.

In keeping with the bankruptcy court's injunction, Aloha's management met with 45 potential investors. Goldman Sachs and Ableco were two investors able to come up with a loan proposal in short order.

Ableco Finance describes itself as an "opportunistic" lender investing in leveraged buyouts, refinancing and other risky capital ventures that range between $5 million and $200 million.

Ableco is a partnership between Cerberus Capital Management LP and Gabriel Capital Group. Cerberus is also the investor that bought a 60 percent stake in Kokusai Kogyo, the parent company of Kyo-ya, which owns the four Sheraton hotels in Waikiki and one on Maui.

Ableco and Goldman Sachs will each invest $32.5 million in the airline. The money will be paid in two installments of $55 million and $10 million.

Aloha will use the funds to pay a $24 million Air Transportation Stabilization Board loan, $18 million in commercial loans from local banks, a $2 million bridge loan from MaitlinPatterson, plus the cost of securing interim financing. The rest will be used as the airline's working capital.

The second installment will be used to cover Aloha's operating costs during the term of the loan.

The terms call for Aloha to pay a $975,000 commitment fee and $975,000 closing fee, a $1.63 million success fee if the airline reorganizes, $10,000 monthly service fee and legal fees. This is in addition to a minimum interest rate of 5.5 percent plus 500 basis points.

The agreement also provides Ableco and Goldman Sachs a 30-day exclusivity period to decide whether they want to pursue additional investments in the airline.

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