Allegiant Reports First Quarter 2008 Financial Results

[labbats]

Not to worry, my post was directed towards Fubijaakr.

 

[fly4surf]

I think you are in the clear caveman.

You have been spot on.

 

[Ameriagle]

tico,

Don't forget Alaska has been around 75 years. How long was the last "good idea" airline that solely served LAS around? 5 years? Do you remember their name?

I wouldn't give a plugged nickel for Allegiant's long term survival flying MD-80s in this environment. Additionally, do you really WANT to be a pariah among other airline pilots? Someone who goes to work for a non-Union carrier who undercuts YOUR salary by $50 an hour?

If you do, you'd better move to LAS because more and more Union pilots are refusing to give jumpseat rides to people who are stabbing us in the back.

For the record I have NEVER had a union pilot be anything but gracious when jumpseating, so your FI posturing is pointless....funny actually! I do commute and the question I usually get is "are you hiring." Yes Sir....thanks for the ride!

 

[BRA]

For the record I have NEVER had a union pilot be anything but gracious when jumpseating, so your FI posturing is pointless....funny actually! I do commute and the question I usually get is "are you hiring." Yes Sir....thanks for the ride!

I think that guy made a fake post to piss us off. I was up all last night thinking about what to do about it. For what it is worth, airline pilot central doesn't exactly paint the best picture of what our pay really is considering profit sharing and inflationary increases. Just as well, the entire industry minus SWA is still very far behind where it used to be in august of 2001. Considering inflation.....we have a long way to go to get things back where they need to be now.

 

[Ameriagle]

I think most at AAY would consider our compensation package a work in progress. However, a 40% gain in recent years in not insignificant, especially in light of the current environment we operate in. Things are going in the right direction, and will continue as long as we are profitable. It just takes time. How many years did Southwest turn a profit before they had a compensation package that could be called industry leading or even industry average?

 

[Beetle007]

How many years did Southwest turn a profit before they had a compensation package that could be called industry leading or even industry average?

Southwest didn't become industry leading until they dragged everyone else down. 10 years ago A320 and B737 pilots were making 200+ an hour at legacy airlines. What is that adjusted for inflation?

 

[ualdriver]

Southwest didn't become industry leading until they dragged everyone else down. 10 years ago A320 and B737 pilots were making 200+ an hour at legacy airlines. What is that adjusted for inflation?

He-he. I think you're wasting your time Beetle. I think we all just have to hope that the payrates at airlines like Allegiant, Virgin, Skybus, etc., aren't the "new" payrates the industry gets dragged down to. It seems like the pilots at these airlines will rationalize those rates "to the death."

Just too many pilots chasing too few jobs unfortunately........

ualdriver

 

[crxpilot]

He-he. I think you're wasting your time Beetle. I think we all just have to hope that the payrates at airlines like Allegiant, Virgin, Skybus, etc., aren't the "new" payrates the industry gets dragged down to. It seems like the pilots at these airlines will rationalize those rates "to the death."

Just too many pilots chasing too few jobs unfortunately........

ualdriver

Just like you will rationalize United's pathetic payrates and abysmal work rules I'm sure......

 

[labbats]

He-he. I think you're wasting your time Beetle. I think we all just have to hope that the payrates at airlines like Allegiant, Virgin, Skybus, etc., aren't the "new" payrates the industry gets dragged down to. It seems like the pilots at these airlines will rationalize those rates "to the death."

Just too many pilots chasing too few jobs unfortunately........

ualdriver

This from a 737 captain at United.

UAL 737 FO pay...
1st year - $32
2nd year - $50

AAY MD80 FO pay...
1st year - $41
2nd year - $51
3rd year - oh wait -- there are no 3rd year FOs unless they choose to be.

How long is that UAL upgrade again?

 

[chperplt]

He-he. I think you're wasting your time Beetle. I think we all just have to hope that the payrates at airlines like Allegiant, Virgin, Skybus, etc., aren't the "new" payrates the industry gets dragged down to. It seems like the pilots at these airlines will rationalize those rates "to the death."

Just too many pilots chasing too few jobs unfortunately........

ualdriver

I think it's time for you to start wrapping around your brain that the industry you joined 30 years ago is gone. I would love if you were still making 200+ an hour.

Those days are gone however and will never come back. It's not my fault or the fault of any of those airlines you mention. You're the one who stands to lose a lot more than you already have if you don't get the chip off your shoulder.