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...how about a "woo-hoo", will that suffice?
 
pilotyip said:
Oh! That’s right there [aren't?] any pax airlines represented by the IBT.

Actually, Horizon Airlines is represented by the Teamsters. Ask any Horizon pilot what they think of them...

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G100driver said:
Gern .... holy crap man, you need to get out on the road or find some more contract work.
Yeah, except I'm kind of a lazy S.O.B. :)
 
gern_blanston said:
You are right on the money, Timskeeper.
Chup? Yosemite? You've gotta' remember that the company can be run however management wants. Have you ever run a business? The company owes you nothing... Not a job, not anything over minimum wage, not a retirement plan, not MLK Day off, nothing. It's their choice how to treat their employees, and it's your choice whether to work there, strike there, or run screaming into the street.
If you work for a good organization, they take good care of you. If you don't, you get the shaft. I can't figger out why people can't figger that out.
If going on strike gets you another $30,000 a year, I guess that's great, but in the current economic climate, a lot of folks with jobs have decided to hunker down and see what happens.
[Up on the soapbox for a rant]
But I am certainly not gonna' tell the company I do contract charter work for to stuff it if they call me to take a trip. My job description as father/husband clearly states that I need to take care of my family. That's what it's all about for me. I must do this, not some union, my 'pilot brothers', the companies I work for, or 'the state' (nod to my communist friends.) Getting fired from my part-time job by refusing to take trips this summer would get me called before the review board at the home office, if you know what I mean, because it would take a bite out of the budget at my very old-fashioned, nuclear, mom-stays-at-home-with-the-kids household.
I quit a couple of jobs to get where I'm at. I was searching and saw opportunity. In fact, I'm still searching. A smart pilot always is. It seems to me (and many other non-union, non-frax pilots) that some of the frax pilots that I bump into on the road might have better spent their excess energy over the last 2 years looking for a different job rather than b!tch!ng about the one that they currently hate.
[/Off of soapbox, end of rant]

Simply an outstanding post, so much so I have edited my signature line. :)

P.S. - I operate out of one of those "very-old-fashioned, nuclear, mom-stays-at-home-with-the-kids households" as well... Very respectable and under-appreciated family lifestyle these days.
 
h25b said:
P.S. - I operate out of one of those "very-old-fashioned, nuclear, mom-stays-at-home-with-the-kids households" as well... Very respectable and under-appreciated family lifestyle these days.
Pretty rare these days. It's amazing how many people look at you like you're from another planet when you mention it. :confused: Go figger.
 
gern_blanston said:
Pretty rare these days. It's amazing how many people look at you like you're from another planet when you mention it. :confused: Go figger.

I get the same response as well. I hear, "how can you afford it?" a lot... Answer is putting the kids in some day care would cost so much it's not worth the wife working. Nothing against those who do, but I couldn't stand the thought of my kids in one of these places. Maybe we're neurotic ... My kids are my biggest investment... I'm willing to die broke as long as I feel like their heads will be screwed on straight as adults.
 
Scary, H25B. I wonder if I had a twin and we were separated at birth, because you sound a lot like me! I guess if you're ever in the great Pacific Northwest, I'll have to buy you a root beer.


-ps- No guessing about it... I AM neurotic
 
gern_blanston said:
Scary, H25B. I wonder if I had a twin and we were separated at birth, because you sound a lot like me! I guess if you're ever in the great Pacific Northwest, I'll have to buy you a root beer.


-ps- No guessing about it... I AM neurotic

You wouldn't happen to be a 6'3", terribly handsome, although somewhat balding man of extraordinary intellect would you ??? Could be worth a DNA swab to figure this one out. :D
 
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h25b said:
You wouldn't happen to be a 6'3", terribly handsome, although somewhat balding man of extraordinary intellect would you ??? Could be worth a DNA swap to figure this one out.

gern_blanston said:
Nope. Short, scrawny, not too bright. Sorry.

Sounds like the movie Twins! :D
 
h25b said:
I get the same response as well. I hear, "how can you afford it?" a lot... Answer is putting the kids in some day care would cost so much it's not worth the wife working. Nothing against those who do, but I couldn't stand the thought of my kids in one of these places. Maybe we're neurotic ... My kids are my biggest investment... I'm willing to die broke as long as I feel like their heads will be screwed on straight as adults.


Ditto! I'd rather not have someone else raising my kids. When they are grown and have issues, I'd rather it be "our" fault.;)


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h25b said:
I get the same response as well. I hear, "how can you afford it?" a lot... Answer is putting the kids in some day care would cost so much it's not worth the wife working. Nothing against those who do, but I couldn't stand the thought of my kids in one of these places. Maybe we're neurotic ... My kids are my biggest investment... I'm willing to die broke as long as I feel like their heads will be screwed on straight as adults.

Outstanding! I have no idea who you are but you're alright in my book.

cc
 
Gern, H25B,

Let me drag you away from the love-fest and add a couple of comments:

It IS refreshing to hear that some of the people on this board have their priorities straight. I’ve been a pilot for many, many years. I’ve seen my kids grow from little nothings to college grads. I worked long hours when they were first born, but I always rushed home when I was done and always tucked them in at night (even if it was 4am and they were fast asleep).

The life of a pilot is a wonderful life. We’re working in the pointy end of a very cool piece of technology. The new generation aint what we were. Now all they care about is how much they can GET out of aviation. I used to care more about what I could GIVE to aviation (and my company and the clients). I still do.

When I was a little lad hanging out at the airport, staring thru the chain link fence and thinking those flight instructors were about the coolest guys in the world, I couldn’t have imagined what I’d be doing today. I am blessed and I know it. Yes I make good money, but that’s not what gets me up every morning (and no Viagra jokes you young punks).

You boys sound O.K. in my book too. I hope there are more like you on this wasteland of a message board.

Ace
 
In our prayer and reflection time today at work, we talked about King David and how Satan does not work to make us hate God, he tries to make us forget God.

That same thing can be said about many things in our lives that take away or make us forget that which is important.

The constant whine of the jet engine is replaced with the constant whine of those for who Netjets union battle has made them totally forget that which is important.

For me, I have to go through God, my wife, four kids, 9 pets, our home , our church, our community, and a few more things before I get to where work stands in my life.

These people have become obsessed with this and it is number one in their thoughts and life. For Buffett, it is probably item 6848 in his thought pattern if there at all.

To label others and try to get them caught up in their self imposed world --- what are they thinking? or not.
 
1) Never really looked or knew how many I had. Actually would have passed it sometime ago as I had to change my screen name when someone pirated it a couple of years ago after being here for a year.

2) pretty much all my posts are rambling random thoughts
 
Again, like the others here mentioned I wish NJ pilots the best and success.

They have that protection of the union and a contract. They can go on strike and have their jobs when its over. Also, they will probably acquire a raise and/or better work rules.

If I decide to refuse a NJ trip from my employer I will be out of a job. Would NJ's union give me job protection? No... Would NJ's union get me another job? No... Because, I'm not a NJ pilot. Its like for example if DAL pilots go on strike and AA pilots are flying passengers from DAL's cancelled flights. Are AA pilots scabs? NO.....

Maybe some must educate themselves of what is a scab.
 
XSWANN@240 said:
Again, like the others here mentioned I wish NJ pilots the best and success.

They have that protection of the union and a contract. They can go on strike and have their jobs when its over. Also, they will probably acquire a raise and/or better work rules.

If I decide to refuse a NJ trip from my employer I will be out of a job. Would NJ's union give me job protection? No... Would NJ's union get me another job? No... Because, I'm not a NJ pilot. Its like for example if DAL pilots go on strike and AA pilots are flying passengers from DAL's cancelled flights. Are AA pilots scabs? NO.....

Maybe some must educate themselves of what is a scab.

Dude, don't worry. This is old news. NetJets is NOT going to go on strike. Everyone on the inside knows that they are going to cave to the current negotiations. No NetJets strike, EVER! It's just a fantasy in some over-excited pilots' minds. Of course they still want anyone reading to think they're 'hanging tough'. It's sort of, ya know, like some guy telling you for 10 minutes how he's gonna kick your a$$ (if you are, buddy, then take a swing already).

Don't worry everyone. Just ain't gonna happen.

Ace
 
Netjets destroyed the charter industry and the smaller 135 operator by becoming a fractional Part 91 company. They undercut, sliced, illegally as far as I am concerned sold and did trips in direct competition to legit 135 companies. Now the pilots are asking the pilots of companies that have been nailed by Netjets to support them. Guys have you even calculated how many hours and money you have lost to Netjets stealing your customer. Believe me a bunch. Let them burn.
 
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Please NetJet Pilots... STRIKE!!!

Gosh, I sure hope they strike. Me and my trusty G200 will enjoy the extra revenue received during these pilots action. I know my owner will really enjoy the extra revenue and expresses his gratitude to the three of us who crew his investment. Better starting pay than NetJets, generous gifts, 5 star hotels on the road, excellent in house maintenance, bonuses and dive/fishing trips to the Caribbean to name a few. I work for an excellent organization and NEVER considered fractional operators. The fractionals are the real SCABS of the industry. They trolled all of the 135 operators for pilots years ago making promises they never intended to keep. They are direct competitors to the Part 135 way of life. And now, they want us to support their displeasure with the job they took. What a joke!!
 
aeronautic1 said:
Gosh, I sure hope they strike. Me and my trusty G200 will enjoy the extra revenue received during these pilots action. I know my owner will really enjoy the extra revenue and expresses his gratitude to the three of us who crew his investment. Better starting pay than NetJets, generous gifts, 5 star hotels on the road, excellent in house maintenance, bonuses and dive/fishing trips to the Caribbean to name a few. I work for an excellent organization and NEVER considered fractional operators. The fractionals are the real SCABS of the industry. They trolled all of the 135 operators for pilots years ago making promises they never intended to keep. They are direct competitors to the Part 135 way of life. And now, they want us to support their displeasure with the job they took. What a joke!!

Dang, are you hiring?? I want a job there!! :)
 
aeronautic1 said:
we will be puting on another pilot. Will advise.

If ya wouldn't mind, PM me base, pay, address or fax # to send a resume, as well as minimum requirements and upgrade time. If I happen to get a job there, you won't just get a beer from me, you get a CASE! :)
 

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