Alaska News?

[Old School 737]

I heard we had about 4 guys that timed out in mid Dec. 1000 hr. Thats a lot of VSA!!!!! Sad life! or no life I should say.

 

[wscrj]

Two calls this month for junior manning so far, and it's what, the 8th? I'll be happy to help out, just as soon as MB is getting a paycheck again.

And to the whore who will undoubtedly pick it up...choke on it.

 

[AKMD80GUY]

FO to MIA tonight is a VSA and dispatch amended flight to ANC at .80mach to prevent reserve FO from going 30 in 7.

 

[kingair1]

I'm flying with a Captain who accepted 2 VSA assignments in the last week. It's like he's proud to admit it. I can't believe this SH**. His excuse is he's building a new home and needs the extra money to cover the costs !

 

[tico]

I'm flying with a Captain who accepted 2 VSA assignments in the last week. It's like he's proud to admit it. I can't believe this SH**. His excuse is he's building a new home and needs the extra money to cover the costs !

Dirty little secret.....You work with probably the most egotistical, self-centered pilot group in the business at one of the greediest, most employee unfriendly airlines in the business....better name would be "wag-the-dog" airlines run by the "spin doctors"......By the time you were hired, the cover was mostly off and you still picked the place.

 

[Chairman]

Do furloughed pilots get longevity credit for time spent on furlough?

 

[Rhino]

nope

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Seniority: A pilot reinstated within the prescribed limits shall
retain his seniority accrued to the time of furlough, but will not
continue to accrue seniority during such furlough; provided
that a pilot returning to active service shall retain the same
relative seniority position that he held on the date he was
furloughed by the Company due to reduction in force and for
such purpose shall be deemed to accrue seniority from the
date of the Company's offer to return to active service.​

 

[Baze]

Four (yes, count 'em: 4) canceled flights today due to lack of pilot crew. The DSO report from 2100 yesterday and 0500 today shows "Low or no pilot reserves."

What are they going to do on Super Bowl weekend?

 

[Mamma]

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Seniority: A pilot reinstated within the prescribed limits shall
retain his seniority accrued to the time of furlough, but will not
continue to accrue seniority during such furlough; provided
that a pilot returning to active service shall retain the same
relative seniority position that he held on the date he was
furloughed by the Company due to reduction in force and for
such purpose shall be deemed to accrue seniority from the
date of the Company's offer to return to active service.​

Seniority is not longevity.

 

[wscrj]

Semantics...

Seniority is not longevity.

True, but as far as the company is concerned, your accrual stops when you leave, and resumes when you return.

I've been here over 4 years, and still only get 10 days of VAC next year because I spent 7 months out.

Also, my anniversary (for pay purposes) was moved 7 months.

 

[Mamma]

True, but as far as the company is concerned, your accrual stops when you leave, and resumes when you return.

I've been here over 4 years, and still only get 10 days of VAC next year because I spent 7 months out.

Also, my anniversary (for pay purposes) was moved 7 months.

I'm not trying to argue the point. Since the company likes to nit-pik the contract to their advantage, maybe you guys could argue that longevity, per the contract, is not mentioned as being stalled when you are furloughed....just seniority. Seniority is not longevity. Just a thought.

 

[charlieB]

So if you fly the line for one year, then take a voluntary LOA (mil or personal) for 4 years, you come back to year 5 pay?

 

[igneousy2]

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[Full of LUV]

So if you fly the line for one year, then take a voluntary LOA (mil or personal) for 4 years, you come back to year 5 pay?

Apples and Oranges..... Mil leave (either vol or non-vol) is covered by USERA (federal law) and counts towards longevity.

Personal LOA's are between you and the company as to the terms, usually related to how bad they want people to volunteer.

Furlough is what is negotiated in your contract. Delta has credit for furlough time in longevity in their contract.

I've heard that other airlines that don't have it in their contract have negotiated for it back longevity for the furloughs once the furloughs are back on the list, like AA did, in the past. But that comes down to negotiating priorities of the group for the whole.
LUV

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Alaska pilots have that, too. VSAers get to add a few years of longevity to their effective payrate.

 

[RNP.15]

Virgin America orders 60 airplanes let the blood bath begin.

 

[Green Banana]

Virgin America orders 60 airplanes let the blood bath begin.

Virgin has been competing against Alaska for two years. Alaska is going to have the most profitable year in its 75 year history. What is more airplanes going to do for VA? Aircraft on order has no bearing on profitability or longevity.

"Low-cost Skybus has placed a firm order for 65 Airbus A319 airliners, at a catalog price of about $3.9 billion, the European aircraft manufacturer Airbus said on Thursday."

 

[dashtrash]

"Low-cost Skybus has placed a firm order for 65 Airbus A319 airliners, at a catalog price of about $3.9 billion, the European aircraft manufacturer Airbus said on Thursday."

Nice one.

 

[RNP.15]

Hope your right Green Banana we shall see.

 

[tico]

Virgin has been competing against Alaska for two years. Alaska is going to have the most profitable year in its 75 year history. What is more airplanes going to do for VA? Aircraft on order has no bearing on profitability or longevity.

"Low-cost Skybus has placed a firm order for 65 Airbus A319 airliners, at a catalog price of about $3.9 billion, the European aircraft manufacturer Airbus said on Thursday."

Lets make a small correction.....When they begin to take delivery and grow then they will be competing with Alaska....At the start of the last decade, th"in the know" Alaska guys were saying exactly the same about jetblue and airtran.......history repeats itself