Alaska management verbally announces furloughs for

[DawgPilot]

Heard the same thing about only 75 being 'approved.' Rumor has it they only want to/have staff to crunch numbers for 75 early outs...

If I wanted out for real and wasn't in the 75, I'd be p1ssed...

 

[Chief Pilot]

It appears that management wasn't expecting the interest in leaving to be so high. Now their BS threat of a furlough is coming back to haunt them. They don't want too many people to leave because it will keep the airline from being nimble in the face of new opportunities.

They threatened a furlough to distract the negotiators, hold the junior guys hostage and maybe get rid of a few unknowns at the top. I guess they didn't figure that a hell of a lot of people could figure out ways to make more money elsewhere and just wanted to get out with an extra $100,000.

Lets just hope it's more fact than rumor. I'd love to see them have to hire again before next summer.

 

[Chief Pilot]

According to the MEC, EVP Greg Saretsgy just told a few "hand-picked" pilots that there would indeed be furloughs next month. This at a time when the negotiators felt they were very close to completely mitigating all furloughs through early outs, LOA's, and Line Sharing.

This is union-busting at it's finest. They think that they are going to break our will by taking hostages. All this does is make me more resolved in our position to not give an inch. In my opinion management is getting desperate, especially when you consider that yesterday analysts at Forbes predicted a profit for Alaska in 2008.

 

[Going2Baja]

Any ounce of loyalty that GS thought he might have in this 'historic' airline of the great state of AK has just been flushed! I wouldn't move my flight bag from one a/c to another to help that SOB get back to the great white north. They want to play games w/ our lives - then I say let the games begin! Hostage nothin' - We'll see who is taking whom hostage!!

Baja.

 

[SRMairlines]

If they are going to furlough by November, Greggggggggg is running out of time. The bids come out next week. They will have to sort it out by then. I believe Gregg is helping the Jr. guys by keeping the pressure on. Some of the LOA's and EO's might think twice about leaving if Line Sharing and part time lines are coming. Or Baja... are you that lucky to get furloughed again and bring me down with you?

 

[Going2Baja]

I don't know if 5 furloughs for 6 airlines is lucky....All I know for certain in that I will have one heck of a wall display when this so called 'career' is over.

BTW - There is no way possible to have anyone furloughed by Nov. Good on our MEC for putting in good language for furlough in our contract.

Baja.

 

[SRMairlines]

Baja... Lucky is pure sarcasm. I feel for you and your family having to go through this again. You should write a book about your experiences to convince the young folk that this is no fairy tale job.

 

[Baze]

So, anybody here thinking about going to Japan for a few years?

http://www.crewresourcesworldwide.com

 

[SRMairlines]

No. But there are plenty of options in Japan and worldwide for those interested.

AEROPRO
http://aeroprofessional.com/vacancies.php
AIRCREW GLOBAL
http://aircrewglobal.com/
AVIA
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DIRECT PERSONNEL
http://www.directpersonnel.com/site/load.php?page=5&job_category=9
GAP
http://www.gapaviation.com/index.html
GLOBAL
http://www.globalflyers.com/available_positions.htm
HAWAII AVIATION & CREW
http://www.hawaiiaviation.com/positions.htm
IASCO
http://www.iasco.com/home.aspx
PARC
http://www.parcaviation.aero/aviation/FlightcrewJobs.asp
RISHWORTH
http://www.rishworthaviation.com/opportunities/oppslist.asp?cat=1
WASINC
http://www.wasinc.aero/

 

[SRMairlines]

They only want 75 Early Out Captains because they will have to incur training costs upgrading more FO's to CA (ETOPS in ANC at that). The EO is in place to prevent the expensive downgrade only.

 

[chucklhed]

Just got off the phone with an ANC FO buddy of mine who just got the call from the union tonight saying a certified letter was coming his way. ALPA told him that the company was only going to furlough 9 total. Sounds like bunk to me. How could they only do 9 people total? I guess the numbers game continues as the company works hard for hostages. More to follow, I'm sure.

 

[Baze]

You're right, it does sound like bunk. That is too low a number to make sense. If it is true, then the 9 is the first wave. There will be more to follow.

Just got off the phone with an ANC FO buddy of mine who just got the call from the union tonight saying a certified letter was coming his way. ALPA told him that the company was only going to furlough 9 total. Sounds like bunk to me. How could they only do 9 people total? I guess the numbers game continues as the company works hard for hostages. More to follow, I'm sure.

 

[Mamma]

Not necessarily the first or any kind of wave. I am not going to stick my head in the sand on this one but I will realize that management has played this game several times. One guy I know of, last time they played the furlough game, got a furlough notice every month for several months but was never furloughed. They kept the charade up for months while negotiations were going on. I am going to wait and see if these guys are actually furloughed and then go from there. Nine does not make much sense.

 

[Going2Baja]

Now that there 'may be' an actual number the union can mitigate it. This whole process is lame. I wish the Co would just give up and give in. Pay us the $$ and give us the QOL we're asking for and we'll go back to being the 'happy little pilot group.'

Oops - just read my above post - forget everything I said above about being happy!

Baja.

 

[AZFr8tPilot]

Furloughs here

Got the long awaited phone call today...management made the final decision to furlough 9 of us starting November 10th, certified letter is in the mail. Given that I am number 7 from the bottom, I will be out the door next month. Fortunately I had a class date lined up elsewhere. 8 are ANC and one is LAX based....none of us off probation yet.