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no offense, guys, but if ya'll aren't up for the fight against angle lake, then maybe moving to the private sector is a better move. seriously...ya'll need to stop reading everything that those guys are saying and chill the ******************** out. i use the analogy of the Iraqi information minister when I think about GS....Saying that they are "slaying the infadels" while bombs are going off in the background. the more he talks, the more I laugh. I have on good authority that they have no clue what the numbers are going to be, so it's all conjecture, and ya'll are reacting as if the furlough letters are in hand.

chill out everyone...this is a marathon...not a sprint...and u don't want to burn bridges.

Mookie
 
Mookie - Agreed. All I'm saying is that Mngmt will try to do anything they can get away with. But as part of the bottom 190, I think we all need an exit plan.

Baja.
 
Mookie, you're such a zen master. It must be all the outdoor activity you're involved in.

I like the idea of GS being our Comical Ali. :)

But, I agree with G2B. We all definitely need to have some irons in the fire.
 
totally...have irons in the fire, but you guys have been sounding like the chicks on "The View" lately....:D

mgmnt is doing their job...appease investors and scare the employees... like it or not, and I'm not justifying their behavior, but as much as a bunch of fools as I think those guys are...i'd rather have them then Tilton, Parker, the bozo at Continental...etc. sure Herb would be great, but we don't have him...

Much love....

Mookie
 
I am lucky...I found my iron(s), skis and a snowboard. See you in all in 17 months. I still love my job here and will when I come back but for now......let it snow,let it snow,let it snow ;)
Hollywood is headn' to Sundance
 
Dude, that was just low... really low...

Mookie said:
totally...have irons in the fire, but you guys have been sounding like the chicks on "The View" lately....:D

mgmnt is doing their job...appease investors and scare the employees... like it or not, and I'm not justifying their behavior, but as much as a bunch of fools as I think those guys are...i'd rather have them then Tilton, Parker, the bozo at Continental...etc. sure Herb would be great, but we don't have him...

Much love....

Mookie
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Compared to the CEOs you referred to, I'd rather have you running AAG. :)

Hey, ApM, have fun on your leave. Don't be a stranger, okay? Pick up that phone every once in a while.

Hopefully, in 17 months this place will be worth coming back to. Otherwise, I might have to come down there and apply for one of those lift operator positions.
 
Looks like I missed the mark. Lines built to 80-85 for October. Good thing we're getting rid of excess pilots...NOT!
 
Lines are built to 80-85 hours as a courtesy to the VSA crowd.

Just makes it easier for the Kool-Aid drinkers to pick up some overtime.

Fubijaakr said:
Looks like I missed the mark. Lines built to 80-85 for October. Good thing we're getting rid of excess pilots...NOT!
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DawgPilot said:
RedRum,
I respectfully disagree. The current >60's knew the rules when they signed up (retire @ 60), but when their time came, they convinced Prater to extend it to 65. I'm not saying that they 'owe me' a career, but they shouldn't hide behind the legislation. They wanted more and Prater/Congress capitulated.

My guess is a few Early Out's, quite a few LOA's (50) and 40 furloughs. I'm in the bottom 75. ANC here I come...
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You'll like it here.

The chugach got a good dusting today..... :)
 
Baze said:
Yeah, I'm getting too old for a lot of ups & downs.
You're lucky that you don't have to deal with flying
SE trips.

It won't matter in 4-5 months anyways. I've
already updated my resume. I'll probably spend
part of today updating my logbook.

Once they show me the door, I'm probably never
coming back!!!!
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Screw this place!!!!!!!!!

I ain't coming back either
 
20-30 letters go out the 1st of Oct for Nov 1st layoff. After that they don't know how many more, if any, or when the next round would be. All based on how many leaves and early out guys , and the economy, Etc. Etc. This from the D.O. Yesterday.
 
If 20-30 letters go out on October 1, then I expect there to be more to come November 1. Furloughing only 20-30 pilots would be just plain stupid.

MEC and management have not yet seriously taken steps to mitigate furloughs. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the early out applications and how many of them actually leave.

Old School 737 said:
20-30 letters go out the 1st of Oct for Nov 1st layoff. After that they don't know how many more, if any, or when the next round would be. All based on how many leaves and early out guys , and the economy, Etc. Etc. This from the D.O. Yesterday.
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Old School 737 said:
20-30 letters go out the 1st of Oct for Nov 1st layoff. After that they don't know how many more, if any, or when the next round would be. All based on how many leaves and early out guys , and the economy, Etc. Etc. This from the D.O. Yesterday.
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It will be interesting to see if they actually send out the letters on that date. They have not had a meeting with the union to discuss reduction of block lines as required by the contract. Sec 23.A.1
 
Hey Green-Yes, the MEC and management have met several times to discuss section 23. They shared this in the Negiotators Notepad but they are not close to an agreement. Management can send out letters stating the intent to furlough on the 1st, and still work out a mitigation plan. This all needs to be done by the posting of the Novemeber bids. The MEC still hasn't been given an official furlough number.
 
Forgot to add lines numbers will go down in SEA and stay the same in ANC. Average line will be about 77hrs. That seems to be where the Company is going to go down to since it keeps the lowest line above 75.
 

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