Alaska management verbally announces furloughs for

[Chief Pilot]

Don't see trip 1040 anymore, but I see we've picked up some lucrative gov't charters. Maybe they're making enough on those to justify some photo flights.
Not enough, of course, to save a few jobs.

At least we can bring some service men and women back home to McChord after being away too long. Those are the flights I'm proud to make happen.

 

[Baze]

If you go to "Schedule" -> "Pairing Display" and enter the trip number and date, it will show up.

Yes, I've seen those government charters on there. I wouldn't mind doing some of those. Would be cool to bring some military folks back home.

 

[wingit]

They just made at least two more SEA open lines to cover flying for October that had no FO assigned. Not sure what that means, but I thought I'd put it out there. Maybe this has happened before, not sure.

 

[Chief Pilot]

Hopefully, what it means is that the pilots at Alaska are showing some unity and trading their lines down to the minimum. Hopefully it means you won't see a bunch of low-life, scum bag, scab-like VSA sh!t heads picking up a bunch of extra time while the company is threatening people's jobs. Hopefully, management will realize the long term limitations a furlough will have on the most financially sound and well positioned airline in the country (according to independent analysts).

We'll soon see if all the hoping is for naught.

 

[Baze]

I certainly hope you're right!

If every single pilot on the property would drop down to 75 hours, not VSA, and bail out of the bank program, ALK would end up bringing in some new-hires! Heck, even with the 10% Kool-Aid drinkers still enabling...

But, we all know that won't happen. The sad thing is that it would probably only take one month of doing this - short-term sacrifice for long-term gain.

Hopefully, what it means is that the pilots at Alaska are showing some unity and trading their lines down to the minimum. Hopefully it means you won't see a bunch of low-life, scum bag, scab-like VSA sh!t heads picking up a bunch of extra time while the company is threatening people's jobs. Hopefully, management will realize the long term limitations a furlough will have on the most financially sound and well positioned airline in the country (according to independent analysts).

We'll soon see if all the hoping is for naught.

 

[Dan Roman]

WOW It's our boss !! ?
Note the mug shot below. Bill has been at this since his younger days !

Article pulled from :

http://www.investorsiraq.com/showthread.php?t=95798

ELECTION 2008
[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]Obama worked closely with terrorist Bill Ayers[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]Records show collaboration on funding leftists despite claim he's just 'a guy' in neighborhood[/SIZE][/FONT]

Posted: September 23, 2008

[FONT=Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif]By Aaron Klein[/FONT]
[SIZE=-1]© 2008 WorldNetDaily[/SIZE]

JERUSALEM – In spite of Sen. Barack Obama's claims to the contrary, the Democratic presidential nominee had a close working relationship with former Weathermen terrorist leader William Ayers when the two served alongside each other on a hundred-million-dollar education foundation, according to the group's own archived records.
The records also show Obama's and Ayers' foundation granted money to radical leftist activist causes.

News reports, archived records, interviews and Ayers' own curriculum vitae document that Ayers was the founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, or CAC, which bills itself as a school reform organization. Ayers also served as co-chairman of the Chicago School Reform Collaborative, one of the two operational arms of the CAC, from its formation in 1995 until 2000.

In 1995, Obama was appointed as the CAC's first chairman.

In response to a query by National Review Online writer Stanley Kurtz, the Obama campaign issued a statement claiming Ayers was not involved with Obama's "recruitment" to the CAC board. The statement said Deborah Leff and Patricia Albjerg Graham, who served as presidents of other foundations, recruited Obama.

Last April, Obama dismissed Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis."

But Kurtz reviewed the CAC archives at the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago, which houses CAC board meeting minutes and other documentation from the education foundation. He found that along with Leff and Graham, Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board of the CAC, which hired Obama.

"Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval," Kurtz writes in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece today.

According to the documents, the CAC granted money to far-leftist causes, such as the radical Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which, WND reported, has done work on behalf of Obama's campaign.

ACORN is the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families. It has held violent, disruptive protests, seeks to regulate banks, supports left-leaning education policies, is accused of working on urging partisan voter turnout for elections, and seems to promote driving businesses from cities.

WND broke the story last week that while Obama chaired the board of the CAC, more than $600,000 was granted to an organization founded by Ayers and run by Mike Klonsky, a former top communist activist. Klonsky was leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party, which was effectively recognized by China as the all-but-official U.S. Maoist party.

Confirms Kurtz: "Instead of funding schools directly, [the CAC] required schools to affiliate with 'external partners,' which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as ACORN."

In 1995, the year Ayers founded the CAC, he gave an interview for author Ron Chepesiuk's book "Sixties Radicals" in which Ayers stated, "I'm a radical, leftist, small 'c' communist."

Ayers' wife, Dohrn, also has served on panels with Obama. Dohrn was once on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted List and was described by J. Edgar Hoover as the "most dangerous woman in America." Ayers and Dohrn raised the son of Weathermen terrorist Kathy Boudin, who was serving a sentence for participating in a 1981 murder and robbery that left four people dead.

The charges against Ayers were dropped in 1974 because of prosecutorial misconduct, including illegal surveillance.


entire story:

Let me guess, you wear a tin foil hat when you fly above 10,000'?

 

[ClearRight]

I'm trying to figure this whole thing out. . . If they plan on sending notices next week will it just be sloughing off the bottom 30-40? So the captain lists will be pretty fat, no? So in order to make it all work, they'll need to downgrade a bunch of captains. Now if they do that, as I read the contract, they'll need to post a reduction bid. 14 days. The furlough section of the contract says, "If a pilot is to be furloughed and another pilot is to replace him (a downgraded captain?), the pilot to be furloughed shall not be placed on furlough prior to the completion of all training which is required to qualify a replacement." I'm guessing another 2 weeks.

So- we're looking at a month before any pilot could be on the street from the time they post a reduction bid. That's if they get all their ducks in a row to push a bunch of guys through the already overloaded sim schedule.

Am I correct in my thinking??

 

[Mookie]

Anyone have an over/under of how bad C.M. is going to screw up this bid???

Mookie

 

[Baze]

Mookie,

You should call her and ask. I bet her answer will be:
"What reduction bid?"

I'm sure nobody has told her anything about reductions, downgrades, furloughs!

Anyone have an over/under of how bad C.M. is going to screw up this bid???

Mookie

 

[QCappy]

I'm trying to figure this whole thing out. . . If they plan on sending notices next week will it just be sloughing off the bottom 30-40? So the captain lists will be pretty fat, no? So in order to make it all work, they'll need to downgrade a bunch of captains. Now if they do that, as I read the contract, they'll need to post a reduction bid. 14 days. The furlough section of the contract says, "If a pilot is to be furloughed and another pilot is to replace him (a downgraded captain?), the pilot to be furloughed shall not be placed on furlough prior to the completion of all training which is required to qualify a replacement." I'm guessing another 2 weeks.

So- we're looking at a month before any pilot could be on the street from the time they post a reduction bid. That's if they get all their ducks in a row to push a bunch of guys through the already overloaded sim schedule.

Am I correct in my thinking??

No. If they furlough 30-40 guys and have 30-40 senior guys take the early retirement then there would be no need to downgrade anybody.