Alaska management verbally announces furloughs for

[QCappy]

Not entirely true. There are a bunch of pilots who started on November 13 of last year. I'm surprised they weren't thrown into the mix by management.

I probably shouldn't give them any ideas.

OK Baze, you caught me I don't think management could plan that well though, so they gave themselves three days leeway on probationary guys.....oh wait. I'm sorry. They are really good planners since they will furlough these nine guys for 24 months because they know what the world will look like in two years.

 

[Baze]

Sorry QCappy, I wasn't trying to be nit-picky.

Only time will tell what Ford & Harrison is telling Angle Lake to do.

OK Baze, you caught me I don't think management could plan that well though, so they gave themselves three days leeway on probationary guys.....oh wait. I'm sorry. They are really good planners since they will furlough these nine guys for 24 months because they know what the world will look like in two years.

 

[QCappy]

I know you weren't. It's all good!

 

[mach none]

We work for a company that is morally and ethically bankrupt.

This will always be the case. Good luck to the 9 furloughs. Management will put these pilots on the street to prove a point, regardless of what section 23A1 states. I believe the term is fly than griev. I also see way to much I got mine going on with the older pilots too, which will ultimately lead to this pilot group caving.

Comments like, "don't reduce the block hours," "furlough is part of the job," and "I can't believe we will be charged an assessment for furloughed pilot's cobra" says it all. We are at turning point for alpa at Alaska. Are we going to be a union or not?

Just being a realist.

 

[Going2Baja]

...."I can't believe we will be charged an assessment for furloughed pilot's cobra" says it all.

You're totally correct. I wouldn't say the majority is this way but quite a few are. I take my hats off to the NWA ALPA - when over 700 of us wee furloughed in 2002 the pilots gave between $4-12 a month to take care of the furloughees medical COBRA. I for one will be one of the first to voluntarily give for COBRA assistance. As far as I'm concerned, the Co should pay their COBRA since they were the ones to missmanage this company to the point of furlough!

Baja.

 

[Baze]

Why would you expect a VSA'er, who's averaging 100+ hours of credit a month to donate to a $35/hour reserve FO's furlough fund?

These poor VSA'ers have 2nd or 3rd houses to take care of. They also may have a boat or an airplane and they need money to put gas in the tank for their weekend fun.

 

[Old School 737]

Talked to the SEA assistant Chief today and he says that they (the Chiefs, Tom included) are not in the loop on the layoff thing and that it is happening over at corporate (G.S.) and they are finding out as we all are finding out. Nice way of doing business!!!!
NOT!!

 

[Wally]

Shouldn't we be trying to unite our pilot group? Let's not focus--especially in a public forum--on the few bad apples. I think the majority of our group will step up to the plate. There will always be those that dissent, but airing our dirty laundry here isn't going to change that. If you know or fly with one of these guys on the other hand, that's the time to share your point of view.

Just my $0.02. Carry on.

 

[mach none]

ops, I forget that Bill and Gregg read these boards. I'm bad.

 

[Going2Baja]

ops, I forget that Bill and Gregg read these boards. I'm bad.

If these two clowns have nothing better to do than read this....no wonder we're in such supposed bad shape!

Baja.

 

[Baze]

Yeah, AAG is in financial dire straits. The sky is falling... gloom & doom... etc.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Yeah, AAG is in financial dire straits. The sky is falling... gloom & doom... etc.

I know, right?!? A bbbbbbillion in the bank, and the second best hedges in the industry! Christ, we're one step from the soup kitchen.

 

[Mookie]

ops, I forget that Bill and Gregg read these boards. I'm bad.

the Buck Fill and Guck Fregg...:laugh:

thanks baze...

 

[Baze]

Mookie,

Why are you being so negative?

 

[Going2Baja]

the Buck Fill and Guck Fregg...:laugh:

thanks baze...

Mook - Next you're in So Cal you have to stop by and clean my screen - I just spit brew all over it!!

Baja.