All you have to do is be able to read because they only thing that counts is what's in writing. True. The union and company promising certain things aren't going to happen doesn't cut it after it's signed. If it's so great, why the dog and pony show? As far as I know every union has road shows, that's not new. Why not allow voting already? Good question, it does start next week according to MP, but the reason for the delay..who knows. Because they have to add smoke and mirrors to make you overlook the details. Again, I'd be alot more open to the shows if they were a little more obvective and lot less threatening. Threatening wasn't my experience, we were involved in a true back and forth Q&A. As I said earlier, it was eye opening. I don't doubt your word about how you felt, but go and make them answer for that one-on-one. Why not just present the facts and let everyone decide? I called them, point blank, on the complete amateurish way the whole announcement and follow on to the TA was handled (among many other actual contract related items). They admitted many mis-steps. Also, they were quite candid on some of the concessions and where they saw the realtive gains from those. Again, I'm not drinking the cool-aid (on either side) nor am I befuddled by "smoke and mirrors" as you put it. I read the TA (every word), I read Lear's points, again word for word. I just went the extra step and went to the source for further information. While I obviously can't fault someone for going to the roadshow, I can't blame someone for not wanting to sit through the rest of the crap that they're adding. I just left the crewroom today because it was just too insulting to listen to.