AirTran pilots will own the SW upgrades

[scoreboardII]

Playing right into Randy Babbits hand...

 

[Cubs in '05]

THIS ^^^ is what is important now. None of us can control what has happened nor did we really have any in the first place. Can we stop bitching and unite? We all will be under whatever new contract we vote in. Stop complaining about what we can't control and let's be the unified group that the company fears and isn't expecting. The feeling sorry for yourself bull******************** is tired.

 

[freightdogfred]

After the way things went down does anyone really expect to see a unified group?

 

[bluesideup1]

That is a mathematical impossibility. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts"

There are numerous other factually incorrect statements in your diatribe as well, most of which involve percentages and upgrades.

Believe what you want, but if your side wasn't afraid of arbitration, the threats and ultimatums wouldn't have been necessary.

Clyde might be throwing bombs but he's right about one thing, I also think more AT pilots deserved to "make the cut"

Ok you do the math and see if I am wrong here. I was going to retire at number 33 on the list before the acquisition. I am now going to retire at number 84.

Taking into account that the combined airline is larger should allow the same percentage increase in the pilot list to go ahead of me to the tune of 9.9 on my retirement day I should be retiring at number 43.

Every year that I am here my relative seniority becomes worse due to airtran having a much younger pilot group.

You are right though I was wrong about the number I lost. It was over 50% of my seniority by the time I retire.

 

[madjack]

The classics are the problem...

 

[waveflyer]

Ok you do the math and see if I am wrong here. I was going to retire at number 33 on the list before the acquisition. I am now going to retire at number 84.

Taking into account that the combined airline is larger should allow the same percentage increase in the pilot list to go ahead of me to the tune of 9.9 on my retirement day I should be retiring at number 43.

Every year that I am here my relative seniority becomes worse due to airtran having a much younger pilot group.

You are right though I was wrong about the number I lost. It was over 50% of my seniority by the time I retire.

Different numbers, but ditto.

 

[tankerhead]

Last PC check air person said training not wowed by FAT pilots...gotta get thru upgrade and UOE with that bias??? I'd personally fly SWA FO for a while and get some of the AT stank off...hey but it's your license...

And the rest of the professional aviation world is not "wowed" by the RSW talent lately. Right?

 

[Ty Webb]

Last PC check air person said training not wowed by FAT pilots...gotta get thru upgrade and UOE with that bias??? I'd personally fly SWA FO for a while and get some of the AT stank off...hey but it's your license...

Did they tell you that on your first try, MJ, or your second? Sounds like the kind of tale told to Dumbo so that he could fly, too.
. :laugh:

 

[redflyer65]

Well, there's been at least 5 Trannies that got fired while IN training. Couldn't make it through the FO program. Now 5 isn't a large number, but still a head scratcher.

 

[Ualexpress]

There won't be a 'cut' if there aren't any vacancies. I wouldn't count my chickens just yet.

Just shows what a tool CF is more than anything.

There was a memo that came out yesterday stating there will be 144 upgrades awarded for the March vacancy that all AirTran pilots will be able to bid for. I assume that was the reason CF started this thread. There will be many 717 captains that will transition captain to captain. This was also addressed in the AirTran version of the memo, it was left out of the SWA version of the memo.

 

[Ty Webb]

Well, there's been at least 5 Trannies that got fired while IN training. Couldn't make it through the FO program. Now 5 isn't a large number, but still a head scratcher.

5 out of 1000 is one-half of one percent. While one would hope there wouldn't be any, but that number is statistically insignificant.

 

[Ty Webb]

Well, there's been at least 5 Trannies that got fired while IN training. Couldn't make it through the FO program. Now 5 isn't a large number, but still a head scratcher.

5 out of 1000 is one-half of one percent. While one would hope there wouldn't be any, that number is statistically insignificant.

 

[freightdogfred]

Well, there's been at least 5 Trannies that got fired while IN training. Couldn't make it through the FO program. Now 5 isn't a large number, but still a head scratcher.

Even you have to admit the WN initial is not set up for non-typed pilots. So really these guys were on their own from the start. So in reality, FL failure rate to date is less than 1%. Most training departments would be pretty ok with that percentage but WN's is not "wowed" by it as you say. What is the failure rate for typed guys hired thru the normal pool?

 

[mayoplane]

If you are so unhappy.....


Delta is hiring! I'm a big fan.

American? United?

 

[scoreboardII]

After the way things went down does anyone really expect to see a unified group?

Yes, or do you propose we roll over and let management win?