AirTran MEC: Whine on!

[Luv2BFlyin]

You mean Volaris, which we no longer codeshare with? Similar to your 'codeshare' with SkyWest that we nixed in the bud. Thanks for the reminder.

I think it was the AAI CEO that said he did as much as he could with AirTran and was pretty much against the growth wall at that point with the money left in the bank vs. the debt owed.

But somehow after the SW announcement, AirTran was the premiere airline to get hired at and was a wonderful place to work. Revisionist history at it's best. I must admit, I knew it was coming as soon as the announcement was made.

Oh, you got me. Is WN still codesharing with AT? Are you going international yet, besides SJU and ferrying aircraft for MX?

BTW, long before the announcement, AT was a permanent home for the majority of us. I'm flying with a lot more people looking to leave now than ever before the announcement.

 

[texman]

Humm,

I agree with the -200 mentality. After 2015 their will only be 70 -300 left.

 

[humveedriver]

Humm,

I agree with the -200 mentality. After 2015 their will only be 70 -300 left.

And all in my domicile. My transition experience is prob amplified from being an early AT 737 cappy to flying with the most senior airman and oldest aircraft at SWA. You throw in a brand new terminal with Whataburger and Campisi's pizza though and I'll fly the round dials till the desert call for them.

 

[Ty Webb]

Guess who flew into all those places except DEN before AirTran? Guess who was doing international before AirTran. That's right American Eagle. That is where I came from. AE was flying to more destination, served more airports, had a larger pilot group and I made close to what an AT captain was making. They are also considered a Major airline by the DOT.

I can't believe this is the warped logic coming from a Major Airline pilot used to justify why they deserved DOH or better.

It is not much higher pay scale, better working conditions, never furloughed, more stable, more bases, more pilots, more aircraft, better relationship with management, better contract, Etc.

No, it is about who went to LGA, BOS, DEN, PHL and international first. By that standard if AE was to buy you then you would have taken a staple since they are obviously far superior aviators since they did all that first?

Your coworker was the one who started throwing the "regional" word around, buddy, not me, but it was very ironic, considering that SWA's route map more closely resembles a "regional" than . . . . a regional.

Btw, I'm sure you would like to think that AirTran and Eagle were similar, but you couldn't be further from the truth; just ask any of the 100 or so guys who we hired from Eagle. Even under our 2001 Contract, our 12th year (top) pay was 150% of your 12th yr pay. Now it is more like 200%, and no one tried to check my prostate before offering employment, either.

 

[madjack]

It's good to be proud of what you do...but if u think your peers at DAL think AAI is aTrue "international" carrier, read back a couple hundred entries ago...maybe GK played us all but he was able to use our respective insecurities to make this integration happen, I'm sorry for the lost years in seniority, but it was the only way it was going to work.

 

[waveflyer]

Please...you're giving me gas. I've read enough of your postings to know exactly how you think of the AAI group.

And what exactly do I think?
Since you're so knowledgable in that area...

I'll tell you as simply as I can. You have great guys there and you have dicks- just like us- what you didn't have was an equal career, job or stable position in this industry.

Excuse me for tiring of FLIGHT INFO AT guys constant whining-
Yeah- I don't think much if your thoughts, freight dog, or PCL- but I carry ZERO prejudices with me at work

 

[canyonblue]

Merger? I'm not seeing any UCAL like airplanes painted in memory AT colors? We still having trouble understanding the term acquisition?

Kind of like how the British "merged" with the Native Americans.

 

[carl p]

FI, the one constant in an industry of uncertainty... Glad to know some things will never change lol.

 

[canyonblue]

Gary Kelly knew what he was doing when he bought AirTran . . . two and a half years later, you still haven;t figured it out.

I think I have. It's more and more like the scene from JFK:

Well that's the real question, isn't it? Why? The how and the who is just scenery for the public. Airtran, the 717's, Delta, the drawdown in Atlanta. Keeps 'em guessing like some kind of parlor game, prevents 'em from asking the most important question, why? Why was AirTran aquired? Who benefited? Who has the power to cover it up? Who?

 

[tomgoodman]

Kind of like how the British "merged" with the Native Americans.

That wasn't really a merger; more like an "Occupy" movement that got out of hand.