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Your negotiators should have insisted on seniority order but that is not what the agreement allows for. ALPA agreed to out of seniority transition and both sides ratified it.
Roughneck, here is the issue. TBN 13-08 just closed with a June 2007 AirTran new hire being awarded an August Dallas transition training class date. This pilot was awarded a TBA 717 FO slot in the transition bid that closed in December 2011.

There are 30 ATL 717 FOs, 118 ATL 737 FOs, and 13 MCO 717 FOs senior to that pilot who were awarded SWA 737 FO in the transition bid. The junior MKE 737 FOs had to assume their awarded TBA 717 FO position a few months back (when MKE closed) while the junior MCO 737 FOs are getting to go to Dallas in lieu of assuming their awarded TBA 717 FO position on this side of the partition (when their base closed in September).

Since SWA management and the ATN MEC could not come up with a solution for how to handle the 717 sublease deal, SWA management decided unilaterally to stop 737 to 717 training. It is pretty easy to understand their motive in doing this (reduce training costs).

The plan for 2013 had 12 crews crossing per month until after summer at which point that increased to 24 crews per month. That plan hasn't changed. What has changed is what base/aircraft/seat those crews will be coming from. It is a big deal to our first officers and some captains. Some will go earlier while others will go later.

There will be DRCs and grievances filed for the next few years (and maybe a few more DFR lawsuits). It isn't my fight anymore, and it isn't easy for our current MEC. If they change anything, some will benefit while others will be hurt.
 
Roughneck, here is the issue. TBN 13-08 just closed with a June 2007 AirTran new hire being awarded an August Dallas transition training class date. This pilot was awarded a TBA 717 FO slot in the transition bid that closed in December 2011.

There are 30 ATL 717 FOs, 118 ATL 737 FOs, and 13 MCO 717 FOs senior to that pilot who were awarded SWA 737 FO in the transition bid. The junior MKE 737 FOs had to assume their awarded TBA 717 FO position a few months back (when MKE closed) while the junior MCO 737 FOs are getting to go to Dallas in lieu of assuming their awarded TBA 717 FO position on this side of the partition (when their base closed in September).

Since SWA management and the ATN MEC could not come up with a solution for how to handle the 717 sublease deal, SWA management decided unilaterally to stop 737 to 717 training. It is pretty easy to understand their motive in doing this (reduce training costs).

The plan for 2013 had 12 crews crossing per month until after summer at which point that increased to 24 crews per month. That plan hasn't changed. What has changed is what base/aircraft/seat those crews will be coming from. It is a big deal to our first officers and some captains. Some will go earlier while others will go later.

There will be DRCs and grievances filed for the next few years (and maybe a few more DFR lawsuits). It isn't my fight anymore, and it isn't easy for our current MEC. If they change anything, some will benefit while others will be hurt.

I understand the angst but you cant complain about the company exercising the rights that they were granted in the SLI agreements.
 
No they are completely disregarding our LOA with them. You obviously know nothing of our transition bid. The LOA states they will follow the transition bid. It's on page 3 if you have access to it. It's also in black and white.
 
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So Max, that being said and since you were a negotiator at the table. Would you say that they aren't following their agreement?
 
Oh whaaaah....this all was avoidable but ur MEC "saved u fm yourselves", blame them not SWA for running a profitable business....
 
Oh whaaaah....this all was avoidable but ur MEC "saved u fm yourselves", blame them not SWA for running a profitable business....

That dumb decision has nothing to do with it. Management still hasn't followed any agreements so far except to not pay the AirTran side swa wages. I don't see how it would be any different.
 
This message is hidden because madjack is on your ignore list.

Wacky_Jack, You got what you wanted, an AirTran Captain's seat . . .Why don't you spend a little more time enjoying it, and a lot less time here?

:laugh:
 
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U trannys come on here whining about broken promises, but u take no responsibility for taking $$ fm ur fellow pilots...what a bunch of BS
 

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