Kharma Police
Don't mess with Texas
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(all had mostly relative seniority throughout each award)
Bye Bye---General Lee
GL,
This isn't a merger like dl/nw or us/aw it is an acquisition by SWA of a much smaller carrier.
You talk about unity and not having thousands of pissed off employees after it is done. What is better, 1700 (or more likely 300-400) pissed off former AT pilots or 6000 severely pissed SWA pilots?
Gary Kelly isn't going to throw away 40 years of good business nor is SWAPA going to allow a few hundred AT pilots who want more than they deserve screw it up.
We will welcome the AirTran pilots with open arms when they come into our family in their rightful place.
The sooner they see where that rightful place is the sooner they will be welcomed. If they never see it, well....
What exactly is our "rightful place" Bill?
Redflyer...the majority of your posts appear to be ones of condescension.Apples to oranges General.
1-DL/NW was a more of a merger of equals. Career expectations were very, very similiar.
2- SW is acquiring a smaller carrier. Along with a massive difference in career expectation between the two pilot groups.
Big, big difference. The arbitor (if it ever gets there) will see that plainly.
Apples to oranges General.
1-DL/NW was a more of a merger of equals. Career expectations were very, very similiar.
2- SW is acquiring a smaller carrier. Along with a massive difference in career expectation between the two pilot groups.
Big, big difference. The arbitor (if it ever gets there) will see that plainly.
You are trying to manage their expectations, and really, you can't.
achieve the highest pay possible along with the best quality of life possible. How is that any different than the career expectation of every SWA pilot?
Redflyer...the majority of your posts appear to be ones of condescension.
A smaller carrier? AirTran is a Major airline just like SWA is. You may have more pilots on your seniority list at this point in time by virtue of longevity, but that doesn't mean that you are any better (or worse) than any AirTran pilot.
"Massive difference in career expectation"? Says who? You? AirTran pilots have the capability to upgrade to Captain much quicker than a SWA pilot does. I expected to upgrade in 5 years. Did it in 4.
The career expection of every AirTran pilot is to progress to the Left seat as soon as possible, achieve the highest pay possible along with the best quality of life possible. How is that any different than the career expectation of every SWA pilot?
Thanks for making my point. It's worth over one million dollars in pilot pay differences between AAI and SW. I would say that's a pretty big difference in career expectations would you?
I'm not saying AAI wouldn't have strived to achieve those gains, but when they do it overnight with another groups contract then that qualifies as a windfall for one group. How am I wrong? The pay differences alone are 60-80%.
Not trying to be condending at all, just stating the facts as they are.
I have come to the conclusion that Southwest and Airtran pilots could play nice on here if it weren't for General Lee.
I have also come to the conclusion that everyone here keeps taking his bait.
Gup
It's not like he purposely tries to flame bait by posting internal e-mails or anything............
What exactly is our "rightful place" Bill?