Airtran job

[Limeyflyer]

Urp??

 

[livintheredream]

Unused Reserve Period. If you are makeing to much soft time the company can take any amount of RES days away with 48hrs notice. You get the days off but you loose 3.5hrs of pay of day. During slow times they use this to keep you around 75hrs of pay and make there books look good. After the Easter weekend CX's I dont see this happening in the near future.

 

[skywiz]

2500 total?

Question concerning the mins for any Airtran folks:

I see that the 2500 total hour requirement says fixed wing time. It says in parenthesis () turbine/turbojet. If I had 3000 total with 2000 (military) of multiengine turbine and 1000 turbine PIC (mil equivalent), but am short of the 2500 total fixed wing turbine, would I be out of the game?

I am wondering why they even put turbine/turbojet in parentheses. I initially read it as just 2500 total fixed wing time.

Just curious.

 

[Limeyflyer]

Unused Reserve Period. If you are makeing to much soft time the company can take any amount of RES days away with 48hrs notice. You get the days off but you loose 3.5hrs of pay of day. During slow times they use this to keep you around 75hrs of pay and make there books look good. After the Easter weekend CX's I dont see this happening in the near future.

Thanks for the explanation

 

[bmpilot]

With the pilot group's overall happiness at record levels, I don't foresee much URPing until September.

r u f'ing kidding me. That was a joke right. Do u work here. Overall happiness at record levels? We can't wait for a strike vote!

 

[j41driver]

r u f'ing kidding me. That was a joke right. Do u work here. Overall happiness at record levels? We can't wait for a strike vote!

Yes he works here. He didn't say record "high" levels...

 

[Lear70]

LOL - Max was being facetious, which doesn't come across well online without a winky face or something else to denote sarcasm.

I've known Max for over a decade, and I'm pretty certain you can count on him to be solidly in the pilot's corner for the upcoming "festivities".

 

[JerryLundegaard]

When do the strike votes get counted?

 

[ATLboeing]

When do the strike votes get counted?

Not soon enough...
I was hoping they were going to keep us updated on the percentage of pilots who have participated in the voting, but they're going to sit on that for a while. They say they're pleased with what they see so far though.
I believe the magic numbers will be on full display around the 17th of May, the day before the shareholders meeting in MKE.
For what it's worth, I haven't flown with, talked to or heard of a single pilot who will be voting no. Although, I'm sure we have a couple here and there that will.

Curious though, about how long after high percentage strike vote turnouts have TA's been reached at various airlines? For example, Hawaiian had a pretty high number, somewhere around 97% I believe, and reached a TA within about 3-4 weeks, correct?
Anybody else out there that have been through this sort of thing before care to share some data? What was the strike vote and how long after till the TA? I'd be interested in seeing if there's a correlation between high/low numbers and time taken thereafter to reach a TA. I would think the main thing with a low "yes" vote would be loss of leverage at the bargaining table.

 

[Crash Pad]

I think ASA had a high percentage and it took over a year to get a TA. The only thing that matters is getting released... or if someone is looking to buy Airtran.

 

[27 driver]

Word at the school house the other day is 159 total this year. My understanding is that includes recalls, poolies, and new hires.

 

[njcapt]

Curious though, about how long after high percentage strike vote turnouts have TA's been reached at various airlines? For example, Hawaiian had a pretty high number, somewhere around 97% I believe, and reached a TA within about 3-4 weeks, correct?
Anybody else out there that have been through this sort of thing before care to share some data? What was the strike vote and how long after till the TA? I'd be interested in seeing if there's a correlation between high/low numbers and time taken thereafter to reach a TA. I would think the main thing with a low "yes" vote would be loss of leverage at the bargaining table.

The strike vote is just one tool in the negotiating toolbox. It seriously helps provide leverage during the last part of negotiations and gets the troops riled up prior to a release. It won't solve all your problems and is only a general indication of how many would cross, but a vote in the mid to high 90% range is essential for propaganda value. We had a 98% strike vote at ALG back in 1994 and got a relatively great agreement out of it (at the 13th hour after the strike deadline had passed). During concessionary negotiations at ATA we put out a strike vote and got 86%, which was useless as a negotiating tool and as a result got massacred at the table.

 

[CRJDawg]

Have the old retired EAL scabs out of the training department yet?? Heard the training is real barbaric.

 

[CoolSidePillow]

Have the old retired EAL scabs out of the training department yet?? Heard the training is real barbaric.

This is such an old topic. I will just kick your teeth out and do the world a favor.

 

[JerryLundegaard]

Have the old retired EAL scabs out of the training department yet?? Heard the training is real barbaric.

No, but that is probably how your training goes most of the time.

 

[greyskyracer]

Was anyone interviewed at the job fair? or get a call after the job fair?

 

[JT12345]

Actually u can make money on reserve here. It depends. If you don't fly in the beginning of the month and then fly and get most of the credit at the end of the month they can't urp u back down to 70 hours of credit.

I averaged about 85 hours of credit a month. Sometimes 70 sometimes 95. It just depends on timing and a little luck compared to others on reserve. Odds are you will make more than garrantee.

Mangement doesn't like the reserve and wants it changed really bad.
But considering the raises the FOs will be looking at you will probably make the same on reserve precontract or postcontract.

 

[goahead]

What's attrition like????

 

[Lear70]

See other AirTran thread going right now...

 

[JerryLundegaard]

Attrition will largely be determined by Delta's future hiring activity.