Airtran has reached a tentative agreement!!

[j41driver]

From the ATN MEC email, "The MEC will consider and vote whether to approve the TA next week."

Seriously doubt that there will be any official info sent out until after the MEC votes. It's been over 2000 days...what's a few more? Relax a little bit...the info will be out soon enough.

 

[shootr]

ivauir.... I agree with you 100%. However, you also have to realize that we don't have SWA employee numbers and SWA Id's yet. If the buyout doesn't go through then we live under this contract for the next 5 years at least. If we knew the SWA purchase was a sure thing, not many people would care. But its not a guarantee, and for that reason this TA is still a big deal.

Smart...very smart.

 

[Ty Webb]

you also have to realize that we don't have SWA employee numbers and SWA Id's yet. If the buyout doesn't go through then we live under this contract for the next 5 years at least. If we knew the SWA purchase was a sure thing, not many people would care. But its not a guarantee, and for that reason this TA is still a big deal.

GT1900 and Ty Web agree on something! Oh, man, maybe there really is something to the Mayan "end of the world" in 2012. :laugh:

 

[FIREMAN]

From the ATN MEC email, "The MEC will consider and vote whether to approve the TA next week."

Seriously doubt that there will be any official info sent out until after the MEC votes. It's been over 2000 days...what's a few more? Relax a little bit...the info will be out soon enough.

Do you know what they mean by "next week" ? Is that Monday or Friday? Monday should be the absolute latest the pay rates and bonus should be out. They have had most all the sections for months now. Everyone that needs to be present to vote on this should had been in a conference room by noon on Thursday, if it passes it should be released within minutes of the vote. But we all know that will not happen because it has be put through the spin machine .

 

[ivauir]

ivauir.... I agree with you 100%. However, you also have to realize that we don't have SWA employee numbers and SWA Id's yet. If the buyout doesn't go through then we live under this contract for the next 5 years at least. If we knew the SWA purchase was a sure thing, not many people would care. But its not a guarantee, and for that reason this TA is still a big deal.

I hear ya bro. I have worked in lousy places for lousy bosses myself. I just don't see you guys getting it much better over there anytime soon.

The same effort applied to making sure that this deal succeeds seems like a better use of ya'lls time and energy. The sooner we get our new brothers and sisters over here the better!

 

[j41driver]

Do you know what they mean by "next week" ? Is that Monday or Friday?

Does it really matter that much? Really?

 

[Skyboy722]

What do you get??? You mean whats in it for me??? How American especially the last ten years. Well you can have our pay if you like. But seriously you get a company now able to grow. We lose stuff too. I was 40 numbers or a few months from upgrade.....now I'm probably a decade.

I keep hearing this. You'll make more money in the right seat under our contract than you would if you upgraded over there. If your "lost upgrade sacrifice" isn't about money, then what is it? Ego?

 

[FIREMAN]

does it really matter that much? Really?

yes it does

 

[Jet Wash]

You're welcome. :laugh:

Gup

You're a tool. What exactly should AirTran guys thank you for? What exactly did you do? Unless you're senior management at Southwest I know the answer. NOTHING. And it still remains to be seen if it will be a good deal for the AirTran guys. I'm sick of some SWA guys thinking they are better somehow than everyone else.

 

[Old School 737]

You're a tool. What exactly should AirTran guys thank you for? What exactly did you do? Unless you're senior management at Southwest I know the answer. NOTHING. And it still remains to be seen if it will be a good deal for the AirTran guys. I'm sick of some SWA guys thinking they are better somehow than everyone else.

Everybody knows Alaska's the best!!!
Sorry could not resist!!

 

[Cometman]

You're a tool. What exactly should AirTran guys thank you for? What exactly did you do? Unless you're senior management at Southwest I know the answer. NOTHING. And it still remains to be seen if it will be a good deal for the AirTran guys. I'm sick of some SWA guys thinking they are better somehow than everyone else.

Relax buddy, life is too short to feel like you do.

 

[Nindiri]

I keep hearing this. You'll make more money in the right seat under our contract than you would if you upgraded over there. If your "lost upgrade sacrifice" isn't about money, then what is it? Ego?

Well, yes, as a matter of fact, ego does play a part. Maybe you're happy spending your entire career in the right seat letting the CA make all the hard decisions, and I guess that's fine if all you're interested in is money. But I want both, the money I deserve and command. I didn't work my butt off all those years just to be a career gear-slinger.

But to each, his own, I suppose.

 

[Skyboy722]

Well, yes, as a matter of fact, ego does play a part. Maybe you're happy spending your entire career in the right seat letting the CA make all the hard decisions, and I guess that's fine if all you're interested in is money. But I want both, the money I deserve and command. I didn't work my butt off all those years just to be a career gear-slinger.

But to each, his own, I suppose.

OK. Just be sure to tell the arbitrator that he needs to appease your wallet AND your ego...

 

[Mongolikecandy]

Well, yes, as a matter of fact, ego does play a part. Maybe you're happy spending your entire career in the right seat letting the CA make all the hard decisions, and I guess that's fine if all you're interested in is money. But I want both, the money I deserve and command. I didn't work my butt off all those years just to be a career gear-slinger.

But to each, his own, I suppose.

Man, I hope I never fly with you. I got in this business to make money and provide for my family. I will NEVER let ego get in the way of that. And let's not forget... you "command" that money because you were hired before the guy you are flying with, not because you are something special or God's gift to flying.

 

[Kharma Police]

You're a tool. What exactly should AirTran guys thank you for? What exactly did you do? Unless you're senior management at Southwest I know the answer. NOTHING. And it still remains to be seen if it will be a good deal for the AirTran guys. I'm sick of some SWA guys thinking they are better somehow than everyone else.

Pump your brakes kid, or you will get put in the tiger cage or worse yet, sent to the re-education farm. I hear nobody is the same after they get back from the West Texas "training facility".

 

[j41driver]

yes it does

Ok...I guess I'll bite. Why, after as long as this has taken does a difference of 4 days make that big a difference?

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

I do have a question, Has A/T posted earnings for the quarter? If not, when are they scheduled to announce profits?
KBB

 

[27 driver]

posted today

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AirTran Holdings, Inc., Reports Increase in Third Quarter Profit

Friday, October 22, 2010 - Strong Revenue Growth Drives Highest Third Quarter Operating Margin Since 2003 Best Third Quarter Operational Performance in Company History ORLANDO, Fla., Oct 22, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- AirTran Holdings, Inc., (NYSE: AAI), the parent company of AirTran Airways, Inc., today reported a net profit of $36.3 million or $0.22 per diluted share for the third quarter of 2010. During the quarter, the Company reported operating income of $56.7 million. Included in these third quarter results is a non-operating gain on derivative financial instruments of $15.3 million. This non-operating gain on derivative financial instruments was largely attributable to unrealized increases in the fair ..​

 

[Nindiri]

Man, I hope I never fly with you. I got in this business to make money and provide for my family. I will NEVER let ego get in the way of that. And let's not forget... you "command" that money because you were hired before the guy you are flying with, not because you are something special or God's gift to flying.

No problem. I'm sure there will always be room for career gear-slingers who are too afraid or too lazy to advance in their career. Maybe the CA will hold your hand. :laugh:

 

[waveflyer]

Well, yes, as a matter of fact, ego does play a part. Maybe you're happy spending your entire career in the right seat letting the CA make all the hard decisions, and I guess that's fine if all you're interested in is money. But I want both, the money I deserve and command. I didn't work my butt off all those years just to be a career gear-slinger.

But to each, his own, I suppose.

A serious lack of understanding of the FO and CAPT roles.