AirTran Airways pilots launch ALPA ballot drive!

[Lear70]

Best of luck with the negotiations!

I wish I knew the Audi chick, got the pic from another forum, I've got the RS4 up to around 450HP, they can be modded!

Thanks.

She actually looks a lot like a girl I used to date (seriously) about the time she got her "air bags". She's older now, but still hot as hell,,,

One of these days, when we GET a decent contract and pay scales, I'll think about getting a newer model.

I'm still waiting for ANY manufacturer to make the perfect car: a 4-door convertible sedan with S4 power or better... Hard to wrestle the little ones in and out of a 2-door.

 

[Deadmus]

I completely agree!!!!! ALPA now!!

 

[75M]

You know the sad part is that you guys keep living in the past holding on to your beloved TWA or Eastern airlines. Those airlines are long gone and in the past.

While ALPA may seem to be the best of some pretty poor options, please remember that past is prologue. Knowing this ahead of time will go a long way to right size our expectations if national support is ever needed.

 

[Saluki Dawg]

The only thing I would caution you guys about is this, ALPA or NPA, you guys have to have the unity and resolve to get things done. I sometimes think that pilots think that ALPA will magically come in and fix everything that is wrong at a particular airline. Then, when things don't go the way they thought it would, they become disillusioned with ALPA as well.

Good luck with your ALPA push, but don't ever lose sight of who is the union, and that's YOU GUYS.

 

[Lear70]

The only thing I would caution you guys about is this, ALPA or NPA, you guys have to have the unity and resolve to get things done. I sometimes think that pilots think that ALPA will magically come in and fix everything that is wrong at a particular airline. Then, when things don't go the way they thought it would, they become disillusioned with ALPA as well.

Good luck with your ALPA push, but don't ever lose sight of who is the union, and that's YOU GUYS.

Well said!

 

[Regul8r]

We aren't asking for the moon, we just want something fair. ALPA will help us achieve that.

Misconception #1: ALPA will show up on property, wave their magic wand and their will be payraises for all.

 

[PCL_128]

Misconception #1: ALPA will show up on property, wave their magic wand and their will be payraises for all.

1. Learn how to spell.

2. No one has any such misconception. ALPA provides resources that help you achieve your goals. They don't "wave a magic wand." We will never achieve anything without the proper resources.

 

[imacdog]

What resources are those? You're still bound by the RLA and the lawyer that ALPA sent us for our 1113c hearings was a moron. Your pilot group is still the provider of your local union leadership and that won't change with a different national. Whatever makes you feel better though.

 

[zman]

The only thing I would caution you guys about is this, ALPA or NPA, you guys have to have the unity and resolve to get things done. I sometimes think that pilots think that ALPA will magically come in and fix everything that is wrong at a particular airline. Then, when things don't go the way they thought it would, they become disillusioned with ALPA as well.

Good luck with your ALPA push, but don't ever lose sight of who is the union, and that's YOU GUYS.

I couldnt agree with you more, you are 100% right. At least with ALPA you can get an aero-medical department, loss of lic. and loss of medical insurance as well. Something we dont have at NPA nor does Teamsters have. So ALPA is better then what we have now regardless!

 

[PCL_128]

What resources are those?

MCF funding, team of lawyers, E & FA, National SP/SC support, negotiations training, etc...

and the lawyer that ALPA sent us for our 1113c hearings was a moron.

Why? Because you didn't like what he had to say? Were you even someone that worked with him, or were you just a crew-room lawyer who thinks he knows better?

Your pilot group is still the provider of your local union leadership and that won't change with a different national.

Good local leaders can't accomplish jack sh!t if they don't have the resources to back them up.

 

[Regul8r]

The seeds of discontent are being planted

 

[Lear70]

Misconception #1: ALPA will show up on property, wave their magic wand and their will be payraises for all.

You're the only one who has even inferred that they would.

I don't think anyone has said anything except that a lot of work remains to be done, ALPA just gives us better resources to accomplish that work.

Not sure where your Misconception idea came from...

The seeds of discontent are being planted

HA! The seeds of discontent have already grown into a rainforest... that's why the ALPA and Teamsters drives are happening.

It's very simple: National representation and national resources (plus great insurance and job protection programs) and a strike war chest for less dues than we pay now, or the same old same old with higher dues.

I'll take my chances with ALPA and lower dues, thankyouverymuch.

YMMV

 

[gt1900]

PCL.... Please tell me you don't go by the project earning??? Heck, 1 year ago AAI was "projected" to earn almost $70 million in 2008... BTW... How is that a guy who screwed tons of guys over by buying his right seat turboprop time, from a company who should have been paying fo's to fly in the right seat, can b1tch and complain about a union. GUYS LIKE YOU ARE THE PROBLEM..... Now that you are on with a LCC you have this hollier then thou attitude... You make me sick.... Go back and work your way up instead of stealing your flight time from someone who doesn't have the money to buy their way into a job........ Off my soap box now....

 

[scarlet]

Who will run for office=THE SAME PEOPLE....

ALPA Sucks, but so does NPA.....NOTHING is going to CHANGE !!!!!!!!!

Just like the CHANGE candidate that everyone is treating like GOD (which is so scary) Change=back to all the people that have been in Washington for years!!! ??? And now the troops are not coming home so soon ?? U.S. people are like sheep

 

[PCL_128]

PCL.... Please tell me you don't go by the project earning???

Do you mean "projected" earnings? If so, then no, I don't "go by" them, but they are a positive indication of our future prospects. Personally, I think we'll do better than projected. In any case, our FOs deserve industry-standard wages, no matter what the company's earnings turn out to be. FOs that top out at $79/hr? Unacceptable.