Aircraft RENTAL RATES - 2005??

[jetbluedog]

PositiveRate - Cry me a river.

Why do you take such offense to reality?
Simple question.

"Stomping out the dreams........" GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE??

Wouldn't you rather have the FACTS about an aviation career BEFORE you spent $100,000 at UND or ERAU, only to get paid less than minimum wage for the first 10 years of post-graduate work??

Now why the "F" is that "Stomping out the dreams"?????

 

[mattpilot]

How do they do IFR checkrides without autopilots??

Do you honestly need one?

I did my checkride in actual conditions (and under the hood at the same time) and never once had to ask the examiner to take controls for a second so i can flip charts. A properly trimmed aircraft was all that i needed. Only thing you need to look out for is that when you let go of the controls you suddenly get this feeling your turning and of course, you immediately try to correct for it, which messes you up. Once you just trust your instruments its not a big deal. Feels wierd, but if its trimmed right, it will fly itself.

 

[KPTPK]

Do you honestly need one?

I did my checkride in actual conditions (and under the hood at the same time) and never once had to ask the examiner to take controls for a second so i can flip charts. A properly trimmed aircraft was all that i needed. Only thing you need to look out for is that when you let go of the controls you suddenly get this feeling your turning and of course, you immediately try to correct for it, which messes you up. Once you just trust your instruments its not a big deal. Feels wierd, but if its trimmed right, it will fly itself.

Ummm....matthewpilot, sorry to break it to you but I believe he was pulling our(your) leg. How is the weather at UND, it must be effecting dm skills. Good luck on your next stage check.

 

[sqwkvfr]

Do you honestly need one?

Yes! PTS now require an autopilot-coupled approach.

I know...my checkride's on Monday.

EDIT: Never mind....I forgot about the "if equipped" disclaimer. Sorry.
(Who's the dumbass? sqwkvfr raises hand slowly...sheepish grin on face)

 

[Goose Egg]

TSTC Waco (That's Texas State Technical College)

Cessna 152: Single,$60, Dual, $86

We received our first 2 new Diamond DA20-C1s in December, and those go for $20 bucks more. I'm not sure if I'm going to pay that increase to fly in a brand new plane, but it sure is tempting.

Gotta give it up for the cheap state school route--that's what I did. If my future children decide that they want to be pilots (most likely against my advice) that's what I'm going to tell them to do.

Anyway, the Katana is a good airplane (aerodynamically very clean and fuel efficient, fun to fly, brand new, etc.) if not a little uncomfortable without a good butt cushion. Get some padding for your posterior and you should be all set.

-Goose

 

[fastandlow]

Good grief!! Buy an instrument equipped -150 or PA-28, get all the certificates and ratings you can and sell it! You'll be out the cost of insurance, gas, interest on the AC loan, couple of annuals and tie down. Might even break even on the plane if you find the right deal. Have seen it done.

$52 for a Mooney ovation! it have an engine?

 

[mattpilot]

Yes! PTS now require an autopilot-coupled approach.

I know...my checkride's on Monday.

EDIT: Never mind....I forgot about the "if equipped" disclaimer. Sorry.
(Who's the dumbass? sqwkvfr raises hand slowly...sheepish grin on face)

ahh... see i did my checkride over a year ago. Didn't require that. Didn't even have to do a GPS approach, which is now required.

But i suppose that would explain why they took out the APs out of all the aircraft :/ ??

Explain please.... how exactly does a AP-coupled approach in a 172 work? When do you turn it on, when do you turn it off? Do you fly the entire approach with AP or just the final approach segment? Do you simply turn on the AP and set the heading bug to a different heading the whole time? Many, many questions


Oh, and is a AP-coupled approach also required on Instrument Proficiency(currency) Checks?

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

TSTC Waco (That's Texas State Technical College)

Cessna 152: Single,$60, Dual, $86

We received our first 2 new Diamond DA20-C1s in December, and those go for $20 bucks more. I'm not sure if I'm going to pay that increase to fly in a brand new plane, but it sure is tempting.

That's still pretty cheap for today. In the late 90's they were $39/hr single, $49 for 172, $59 for 172 RG and $100 for the Seneca 1. Instruction was oh, $10 or $15 I think. The big schools are overpriced. The airlines don't pay you more because you went to a big school.

It's like buying $100 brand name mall jeans versus $25 Wal-Mart style jeans. They both do the same job but you *think* you look better in the $100 jeans and will continue to buy more when they wear out in a year because you wear them so much, since you only have the one pair because it's all you can afford.

 

[Pugh]

My first choice was Spartan, but I was surprised to find a place closer to home, and much cheaper. I guess you just have to look a little bit harder. TSTC was definitely not on my radar when I was looking at schools. I know of plenty of people at TSTC who were planning to attend Spartan, one even still had the stickers on the back of his truck.

I don't knock anyone who goes to a big flight school though. As long as their happy, it's all good. To each their own.

 

[Ralgha]

ahh... see i did my checkride over a year ago. Didn't require that. Didn't even have to do a GPS approach, which is now required.

Only if the airplane has a GPS.

Explain please.... how exactly does a AP-coupled approach in a 172 work?

Turn on the GPS in approach mode and let it fly.

When do you turn it on, when do you turn it off?

When you want to, but it's off below the DA/MDA.

Do you fly the entire approach with AP or just the final approach segment?

As much as you want.

Do you simply turn on the AP and set the heading bug to a different heading the whole time?

Then it wouldn't be coupled.

Oh, and is a AP-coupled approach also required on Instrument Proficiency(currency) Checks?

If the airplane is capable, yes.

 

[KPTPK]

PositiveRate - Cry me a river.

Why do you take such offense to reality?
Simple question.

"Stomping out the dreams........" GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE??

Wouldn't you rather have the FACTS about an aviation career BEFORE you spent $100,000 at UND or ERAU, only to get paid less than minimum wage for the first 10 years of post-graduate work??

Now why the "F" is that "Stomping out the dreams"?????

jet...I do wait for your relpy. Give me at least some kind of response you received my feedback. I wait dearly for your answer and so do the rest of us. Come on you're an fo on an Airbus on JetBlue and you must know somthing we don't....please inform us of your knowledge!!!!!!

 

[Notunderpar]

jetbluedog,

You are too cool to be posting in this thread. Should'nt you be limiting yourself to posts in the "MAJOR" forum, after all you are an FO on an airbus at a major.

You have a lot to learn yet.

 

[b747dogg]

I am paying $52.00 hour - wet, for a Mooney Ovation at a location flying club when I'm not flying the heavy metal.

We use to refer to the A320 as a light twin when I was on the whale.

 

[CorpLearDriver]

That's a ton of cash...I think I paid $80 for a 152 with instructor and $60 without...

I'll be dating myself but when I started it was $11.50 per hour for a C-150 and $6.50 and hour for the instructor. Times have changed.

 

[sqwkvfr]

ahh... see i did my checkride over a year ago. Didn't require that. Didn't even have to do a GPS approach, which is now required.

But i suppose that would explain why they took out the APs out of all the aircraft :/ ??

Explain please.... how exactly does a AP-coupled approach in a 172 work? When do you turn it on, when do you turn it off? Do you fly the entire approach with AP or just the final approach segment? Do you simply turn on the AP and set the heading bug to a different heading the whole time? Many, many questions


Oh, and is a AP-coupled approach also required on Instrument Proficiency(currency) Checks?

I was actually suprised how well it works.

We've been using it for the entire approach..mostly you leave it in the NAV mode, but you use the HDG bug for PTs and such and I use it to get established on the inbound course and then hit the NAV for a VOR IAP or APR for an ILS....follow the ILS to the DH and use the AP disconnect button at the DH (or MAP --if I'm not told to "look up" sooner than the MAP-- on a VOR or GPS)..on the VOR, use the vertical speed hold and the alt capture feature to descend as prescribed. Working the throttle requires the most vigillance.

GPS approaches involve the GPS box and are more difficult to explain, but they work well, too. Basically after any PT, the aircraft just flies where it needs to go...you do the altitudes and change the OBS to what the KLN-94 and the IAP tell you to for that segment....just keep an eye on the airspeed.

Pretty slick. When I did my "mock checkride" we had barely touched the AP up tp that point and it showed...we subsequently flew all three types with the AP coupled and I became proficient enough for the checkride, but I still get antsy letting "jorge" (HORE-HAY=nickname for AP) fly me so close to the ground.

I was kinda surprised the ERAU wouldn't train to use the AP for IFR, but even with our fleet, there are numerous AP "quirks" and I suppose that chasing those gremlins can be cost prohibitive.

I couldn't tell you if it's required on IPCs..sorry.