Air Wisconsin

[1973Arrow]

For what reasons?

More people is going to mean less demanding schedules and/or less junior manning. Is it going so be rough for the first few months, sure. Is it going to get better, it should. If the rate of attrition would level off and hiring would catch up it only makes sense that it would be less demanding on the crews.

 

[logolight]

Here's my theory on the 1100 pilots. I'm not sure if this number is crew room rumor or official info from managment. As of right now the hiring is through attrition at 30 per month until at least July or August 06'. Thats about 240 pilots between now and then. That's alot of pilots for 70 aircraft. You can only go so high on aircraft utilization before you need to get more a/c. That being said, the only logical explaination would be that there will be some growth in the future. But no one has said on when or how much that would be, much less say that there would be any growth at all. Like I said before. I highly doubt that AWAC will continue to fly 70 unprofitable aircraft for USairways who wants to become a LLC. We at least have to get bigger aircraft with lower CASM than the CRJ-200. Weather or not it will be additional aircraft remains to be seen.

 

[av8er23]

Sounds like it is going to be an interesting ride. I hope I will not crap out on this roll...

 

[saviboy]

I saw a couple of poeple getting interviews and hired by air wisc. with less than a 100 multi( one with 27 and one with 40) anyone knows if those candidates had special conditions such as bridge program, or c.e.o's child ,etc...
thanks

 

[mynameisjim]

I saw a couple of poeple getting interviews and hired by air wisc. with less than a 100 multi( one with 27 and one with 40) anyone knows if those candidates had special conditions such as bridge program, or c.e.o's child ,etc...
thanks

Good personality, intelligent, etc. That's what matters at AWAC from what I've seen, not flight experience.

 

[Beechnut]

Good personality, intelligent, etc. That's what matters at AWAC from what I've seen, not flight experience.

This is true. Experience use to be required. When I was hired you had to have 3000TT, 1000ME and 500 Turbine. Now days, we can't find folks with that experience that are will to put up with us.

The company isn't attracting those people anymore and so they had to lower their qualifications to get the pulses in the classroom.

This aught to make you wonder why.

S.

 

[av8er23]

This explains why I got offered a job after a 15 min interview. I never got called for a sim ride. They called me a week after the interview and offered me a job.

 

[rightrudder]

DDiggler,

I don't know who you are,

Here's a guess, R.C., DCA FO

 

[1973Arrow]

This is true. Experience use to be required. When I was hired you had to have 3000TT, 1000ME and 500 Turbine. Now days, we can't find folks with that experience that are will to put up with us.

The company isn't attracting those people anymore and so they had to lower their qualifications to get the pulses in the classroom.

This aught to make you wonder why.

S.

Welcome to the world of the regional airlines. The Willy isn't the only one having those issue. Look at 'express' carriers for any other airline. They have their published minimums, which no one meets, and they still get hired. I could list you story after story of guys I know not meeting the numbers their company published and still got the job (neither did they know anyone). It's the way the industry is now, and for what ever reason the older crowd hasn't figured that out yet. If things continue the way they are, it's only going to continue down and down for every company.

 

[mynameisjim]

It's because it takes a lot of pilots to have the regionals do all the flying the majors used to do.

Think about it, CRJs are doing routes that 737s used to do. 3 times the airplanes (and pilots) to carry the same number of people.

Too many jobs, not enough qualified pilots out there.

 

[SpatialD]

Too many jobs, not enough qualified pilots out there.

Man, that's music to my ears (well, you know what I mean). I don't really buy it - but I sure want to!

 

[av8er23]

I am on the www.acacpilot.com site.

I was going to print out some flash cards before my Jan. 9th class and start studing.

Are these the same study materials that are still used?

 

[saviboy]

hi
i saw on the airwisc website that indoc and groundschool are 2 eweeks each. anyone knows about sim training?
thanks

 

[wheels1478]

3 weeks

 

[masedogg19]

sim is 10 days of actual sim....1-2 day break in the middle....usually 4 days of CPT before that....mine will run Dec 1-18

 

[saviboy]

anyone knows how long it takes to get a call after having applied.

 

[BoilerUP]

Took me about 2.5 months and four faxed/emailed resumes to get a call...

 

[Speedtree]

Take the worst of what's said with the best of what's said and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. If I lived in DEN/LAX and I had to commute to PHL with the current schedules I would be depressed too. I commuted to work at AWAC for the first 2+ years and now I live close enough to PHL to drive. I wouldn't say I live in domocile but it's close enough. The schedules used to be better. We've done a lot of transition in the past 3 years so I would expect things to be difficult. Did the company drop the ball on anticipating the mass exodus yes. Are they deliberately making the schedules bad, I don't believe it. If they made easier schedules right now they would have to junior man more which would result in just as many pissed off pilots. Are they hiring a bunch right now, yes. Will the schedules improve? Probably a little. Are we as good as the next regional? I think so.

Express Jet is a good place to work but I would rather be at the bottom of 800 pilots than at the bottom of 1500+. Express Jet is probably more stable right now but you're going to be an FO for awhile is my guess.

Yes we do use the flash cards to study. They are mostly system cards I think. The thing that will get you through training is limitations, memory items, checklist flows and callouts. I'm not sure about the other training notes. I don't believe I've seen them.

This is the only regional I've worked for and it hasn't been that bad. Our paychecks don't bounce. We stay in decent hotels. Our planes are maintained well even if they aren't clean. And we still have some good people working here. As you can tell I'm a glass-is-half-full kind of guy and I haven't had it that bad here. It's a regional airline and that's that.

 

[av8er23]

Do all of the hotels that you guys overnight in have high speed internet?

 

[wheelsup]

Do all of the hotels that you guys overnight in have high speed internet?

Some also come with asian masseuses too!

In regards to getting a call - it took them only 9 days to call me, but that was in August, so who knows. And I was a CFI, no 121 training or anything. Email, fax, and snail mail your resume, that's what I did and it worked.

~wheelsup